A Forbidden Interview:FOX-NEWS VS TAX HISTORIAN RUTGER BREGMAN

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  1. Tristan Loscha

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    Higher Taxes for the Rich: Go or No-Go?

    Why was Tucker Carlson that Angry.

    Really makes you think.
     
  2. Risingfire

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    There's a progressive tax structure in the United States. Why should we tax certain individuals at even higher numbers so a wasteful government can blow it? I'm middle class and get killed in taxes so those around me don't have to pay for a cell phone, healthcare, housing, food, etc. It's absurd
     
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    ..Why not?

    Let us enlist unfairly rich specimen to get killed in the War Of Taxes.

    And middle class survives on the healthy surplus.

    Wasteful government spending has to be seen Peat-like,its uncoupling really.
     
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    Ah yes, the old "tax the rich" persistent malignant fantasy.



    One of my favorite jokes is of the frustrated middle aged homeowner who said she voted for the party who promised to tax the rich, but after winning the election they declared her rich.



    Tax the rich is code for crush the middle class and reduce social mobility.
     
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    Factual
     
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    If you’re really middle class you most likely wouldn’t be subjected to an inheritance tax.
     
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    Well, who defines who is "middle class?" And what entity is the one subjecting another to an inheritance tax?

    I believe that if you don't plan out your inheritance and understand the proper structures of how to disperse your estate, it will be eaten up by courts, judges, lawyers, various levels of government, and the offshore trust in Puerto Rico that everyone seems so keen to donate about 40% of their income to.

    At about 9:50 in, a good example is given of how pretty big chucks of estates can be taken by the above entities, even if it's not a "tax" per se.

     
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    Tucker Carlson is right about this schmuck Rutger Bregman. If Rutger had actually watched Tuckers show he would realize he has more in common with him that he thinks, but instead he just read leftist fake news garbage and decided to get trendy good boy points with his fart-sniffing narcissist friends by being rude and snotty and making a mockery of Tuckers show. The rich should be taxed more, and Carlson has expressed that view as well. The leftist useful idiots love this ***t, they eat it up, all they saw was the fox news logo and their whole brain shut down.

     
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    'if you hurt us you'll never be likes us' is the biggest con ever.

    has social mobility increased proportionate to the ever decreasing taxes on the wealthy?
     
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    Middle class can be vague and tax brackets can hurt the middle class. Taxes could be adjusted for geographical location and cost of living.
     
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    Tristan Loscha

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    Homo Consumericus said:
    Tax the rich is code for crush the middle class and reduce social mobility.

    If they dont keep word,then yes,it would be codespeek.Otherwise,it is what it is,Tax the rich.



    No,it hasnt.it decreased even further.The slimes that are in Power pin everything onto Single-Moms and Foreigners.
    "Gotta get your third jerb Bro,otherwise no morality in church possible!"




    Tax increase for billionaires is like uncoupling.
     
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    Foreigners are destroying just about every western country, because as a whole they refuse to assimilate and nobody is making them assimilate, so they work in their own self interest and in the interest of their own identity group at the cost of whichever country they have invaded. Promoting their own culture, their own values, their own religion, their own race, all in opposition to the country that they are guests in. Not to mention they flood the market with low-skill labor, destroying the opportunities of native low-skill laborers which is exactly why multinational corporations love open borders.
     
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    We do not have a big,Volkskörper-like Identity Group i feel,its delusion,and wishful thinking.The divide is real,
    and progressives are not to be blamed for it.
    People are divided,so what gives if another identifier like race comes into play?

    I feel that Lo-skilled workers and Hi-skilled workers,if they are of the same ethnicity,
    do not have much in common or are oppositional toward each other,culturally,then so what?

    Or are the native,locally-born Lo-skilled workers those that refuse to assimilate,have too much of self-interest,
    at the cost of whichever country (culture-space designed by Hi-skill-workers) they have invaded,or just at-random be born in.

    Promoting their own culture, their own values, their own religion, their own race, all in opposition to the country (culture-space designed by Hi-skill-workers) that they are guests in,or at-random be born in.Multinational corporations love native low-skill laborers because of their broken epistemology and unsavory thinking-habit.
     
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    You might not think so but every minority group thinks so and they are advancing their own interests at your expense. Apparently everyone is deluded except the white liberal, how ironic. And yes progressives are in large part to blame for racism, by forcing multiculturalism on the people, by advancing racist ideas like the progressive stack and oikophobia, and continually obfuscating and lying about the negatives of multiculturalism, and refusing to investigate foreign criminals or hold foreign subversives accountable. There seems to be an inherent leftist ideal that lying is good if the truth benefits their political opponents, that news that could make people racist should not be published. This thought is so infantile and ridiculous and in the long run it just lead to even more racism and more extreme racism, for many different reasons.

    It's funny how you talk about oh no we shouldn't be divided yada yada and then instantly try to divide people based on economic class. 2 persons of the same race, religion, culture, creed have a lot more in common even if they are in different economic classes, compared to someone who thinks differently, looks different, worships differently, and has completely different values, even if they have the same amount of wealth. There is a grain of truth in what you're saying though, that wealthy people often become conceited and don't give a ***t about lower classes and corporate capitalism definitely rewards psychopathy. If it wasn't true they wouldn't have sold out our countries in the first place.

    The culture isn't designed by high-skill workers, it's designed by the ultra rich and whatever culture creator class there is. Contemporary western culture output is not primarily designed designed by rich white workers, it's mainly designed by rich jews in Hollywood and ultra rich multinational cosmopolitan capitalists who own the media. Contemporary culture is not produced to the benefit of USA or Europe, quite the contrary.

    To just disregard and throw away inherent culture that has been developing for thousands of years is not wise, especially if you don't understand why certain traditions or norms existed in the first place. If you just decry everything you don't like as oppressive, what remains? It's not as if progressives want to institute some new golden age of freedom and justice, no, they continually push lies, bigotry, hatred, and they continually agitate against freedom of speech, the right to self defense, the right to privacy, and other natural rights. In effect they just want to establish a new form of tyranny, one which is not based on any morality what so ever but rather relativism and navel-gazing theories about what constitutes value, one that favors the people even less than the previous one.

    Multinational corporations love open borders because it depresses wages and it enables them to treat their workers like ***t as they lose all their leverage (because the supply of workers is bigger than the demand, making workers easily replacable), also they can pay their workers lower wages meaning they can keep bigger profits for themselves, they don't give a ***t about anything else.
     
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    The “inherent” traditional culture is a smoke screen for awareness of class consciousness - bow down to the god, holy cow. 2 Muslims are not 2 Muslims if one works at the halal cart and the other is an oil tycoon.
     
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    So why aren't progressives fighting Islam rather than emboldening it? Care to answer that?
     
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    Idk I’m not a progressive.
     
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    You seem to be conflating liberal capitalist autocrats who cry out democracy but know it’s a plutocracy with the left which really does not exist on the news or in the culture at all. The same way capitalism claims it supports the flourishing of the “individual” because it allows you to choose between Nike , adidas and puma. If you look at a place like Uzbekistan, under the USSR religion was not promoted and it became a secular state, then with the fall of the USSR came “Sunshine Democracy” aka CIA trade wars and privatization, came promotion of the hijab and rapid conversion to Islam. Capitalism and religion go hand in hand, god as the creditor and redeemer of debts. The CIA loves to use culture as a hypocritical mind tool..promote two opposite ideologies at the same time and leave the people somewhere in the middle. Someone who doesn’t believe in anything will accept anything, they are historically the easiest people to turn into reactionaries.
    I will leave you with a quote.
    By means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature; the quaint old forms -- elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest -- will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism. All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial [...]. Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.
     
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    The left does exist, they are prominent in the culture and on TV where I am. These progressives whether they be left-leaning liberals, socialists, communists, or antifa, literally cannot stop flagellating themselves and continually uplift and promote islam, judaism, gypsies, and whatever else foreign culture they can find. While at the same time of course lambasting the native culture and anything of old. To be fair, some of the communists are beginning to change their tune but that's probably mostly because they are losing the support of workers who are instead supporting right wing parties who haven't had such an extreme culture of silence about these issues for so many years. CIA and KGB/FSB both do that, divide and conquer. What a better way to divide the people than to import millions of foreigners with all kinds of different cultures, religions, ideologies, races, force them all to live with each other and refuse to deal with any kind of conflict that arises? They are using these refugees as a sledgehammer to destroy European cultures and any kind of homogeneity, instead they want a wild sea of continual conflict, the people fighting itself continuously.

    Nice quote, I agree with that quote. By the way, it is exactly those people who have opened the borders.
     
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    The South American, African, central Asian and middle easterner migrants “invading” Europe and the United States are the consequence of imperialist wars, CIA coups and destruction of once left leaning governments throughout the world. Afghanistan was communist in the 80s, women were becoming doctors and teachers, the hijab fell out of favor. Radicalization and religious thought follows severe economies and war torn traumatic histories. The people who are migrating to Europe and the US are coming from places that were completely destabilized by the ruling plutocracies amidst oil games and war economies. The ruling elite are not really “importing” them as much as they are creating the conditions for their necessity to leave, and then raking in on their helpless and the helplessness of the “more native” populations in the US and Europe once they get there. Sounds familiar? Because it is the economy of Germany before hitler’s seizure of power. Workers could be relocated, paid any wage, and had their rights as workers completely stripped. There was anti union and anti working mans rhetoric while blaming the Jew and the Gypsy.
    Europe has been a polyglot, polyethnic, polyreligious patchwork for thousands of years continually. Unity of Europe under Nazi Germany control and occupation was hitler's dream of "Fortress Europa" against the Slavs and the rest of the world.
     
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