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4 Months Of Barret's Like Symptoms - GP Refuses To Refer

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Wassup guys, to make a long story short I've been suffering with what I believe are Barret's symptoms for almost 4 months now. For 3 /12 months it was nausea all the time and excessive burping. The nausea is now gone but I have muscle weakness/neuropathy, a feeling of fullness in my gullet and a strange pulsating/spasming sensation in my upper abdomen. GP is refusing to refer for an endoscopy/mri and also refusing to give me a H ployri test. Wants me on omeprozole for another month. The UK health system is a complete joke. Anyway I'm still unsure as to what I may have, but I'm getting increasingly concerned.

Really hoping you guys can help me out. Super dosing gelatin alone isn't seeming to work, but the nausea is gone. The gullet and body weakness have gotten much worse...some stomach pain but not alarmingly so. Currently taking gelatin and K2. Is it safe to try gelatin+aspirin and k2 while on the PPIs? Any idea what's actually wrong with me? A&E checked my heart and its apparently fine.
 

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Omeprazole, I think it is in the same category as other prazoles that are used for gastric issues, so considered antidopaminogenic, causing in some hyperprolactinemia (more than just an increase)

Have you tried sodium bicarbonate before? For me it helped some duodenum area pains, but I have never burped and never felt like had any reflux, once the specialist heard this prescribed esomeprazol.
 

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Fascial tension can cause what you describe, to make sure try to find a specific movement of the spine or a limb that triggers this sensation. It can be something as simple as changing weight from on buttock to other when sitting.
 

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The spasms are probably gas, I've had a lot of those when I has bad gas due to SIBO, same place too. It could certainly be Berrets, but it doesn't have to be as the symptoms overlap with a lot of other possible causes (none of which are mutually exclusive). Even body weakness can be many things, you can get full blown CFS like symptoms from SIBO or like intestinal issues. The treatment doesn't change much depending on the exact source so it doesn't really matter what you have unless it's cancer or what not. I would start with antimicrobials and intestinal modulators and go from there. Gut issues are quite complex and the solutions take some experimentation. In general increasing your bowel frequency, taking some antimicrobials, getting a good amount of nutrients (especially protein and zinc), and avoiding substances like alcohol is beneficial.
 

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Fascial tension can cause what you describe, to make sure try to find a specific movement of the spine or a limb that triggers this sensation. It can be something as simple as changing weight from on buttock to other when sitting.

Yes this could be true, I went through a period of extreme, I mean extreme stress for a month before these symptoms started.

The spasms are probably gas, I've had a lot of those when I has bad gas due to SIBO, same place too. It could certainly be Berrets, but it doesn't have to be as the symptoms overlap with a lot of other possible causes (none of which are mutually exclusive). Even body weakness can be many things, you can get full blown CFS like symptoms from SIBO or like intestinal issues. The treatment doesn't change much depending on the exact source so it doesn't really matter what you have unless it's cancer or what not. I would start with antimicrobials and intestinal modulators and go from there. Gut issues are quite complex and the solutions take some experimentation. In general increasing your bowel frequency, taking some antimicrobials, getting a good amount of nutrients (especially protein and zinc), and avoiding substances like alcohol is beneficial.

Ahh I see, seems quite complex. I would really like to not be on the PPIs....would raw garlic suffice as an antimicrobial? Is taking the Aspirin+Gelatin combination still a viable treatment? Thanks for your original reply and thanks to everyone in here, I've been seriously distressed over all of this for at least 3 months.

edit: I should add that I haven't suffered from any sort of diarrhea since the symptoms started which I find odd....just absolutely lost at the moment and the doctors do nothing unfortunately.
 

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Omeprazole, I think it is in the same category as other prazoles that are used for gastric issues, so considered antidopaminogenic, causing in some hyperprolactinemia (more than just an increase)

Have you tried sodium bicarbonate before? For me it helped some duodenum area pains, but I have never burped and never felt like had any reflux, once the specialist heard this prescribed esomeprazol.

I haven't tried sodium bicarb and definitely will! Yes I would love to see a specialist as I never have any burning sensations either, but a lot of burping.
 

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Yes this could be true, I went through a period of extreme, I mean extreme stress for a month before these symptoms started.



Ahh I see, seems quite complex. I would really like to not be on the PPIs....would raw garlic suffice as an antimicrobial? Is taking the Aspirin+Gelatin combination still a viable treatment? Thanks for your original reply and thanks to everyone in here, I've been seriously distressed over all of this for at least 3 months.

edit: I should add that I haven't suffered from any sort of diarrhea since the symptoms started which I find odd....just absolutely lost at the moment and the doctors do nothing unfortunately.
PPI's are quite dangerous in my opinion as they can further worsen the microbiome (and risk infection) and increase bacterial translocation. They are immunosuppressive. Raw garlic is a reasonably effective antimicrobial but it can be a strong intestinal irritant for some people. https://www.researchgate.net/public...c_Preparations_on_the_Gastrointestinal_Mucosa. I wouldn't recommend it for people with intestinal problems as often times they are already dealing with mucosal damage. If you think you have barret's syndrome garlic is probably the last thing you want to take. Essential oils are also typically mucosal irritants just due to their potency. Diluted essential oils (normally in olive oil) are fine for many people but not for others. Just putting a lot of antimicrobial spices (such as oregano, clove, and especially thyme) on your meals can help some. A really strong antimicrobial combo is clove + oregano (mostly the essential oil but the plane spices will have a good effect too) as carvacrol (high in oregano) and eugenol (high in clove) are very synergistic. If you have dysbiosis its possible antimicrobials will make you feel worse at first, which could be a die off reaction. Its important to maintain good nutrition and especially adequate protein intake when taking a lot of herbs as herbs tend to be slightly immunosuppressive when taken in large quantities. Though if you are fine on a PPI I doubt you'll have any problems. Its important to not overdo antimicrobials as the end goal is the establishment of a proper, healthy microbiome. Herb based antimicrobials tend to positively modulate the microbiome at normal doses but high doses also decreases beneficial bacteria in many cases.
Increasing bowel frequency to about 3 times a day is another worthy goal as it quite dramatically modulates the microbiome. Note that some people with dysbiosis suffer from too frequent bowel movements but these people don't typically have bad symptoms aside from IBS-D. Of course how you react to these substances will vary widely based on your condition but some good substances for this are: coffee (caffeine too is good but some teas such as green teas can actually be mildly constipating at times despite the caffeine content due to other compounds), cascara sagrada, aloe vera (similar compounds to cascara sagrada), senna (I've never tried this one and don't know much about it), and magnesium.
Regarding aspirin and gelatin I'm on the fence. It is possible that aspirin can improve the microbiome and it is a rather potent antimicrobial. But it can be hard on the intestinal barrier for some people. I normally recommend meadowsweet to people over aspirin as meadowsweet contains salicylic acid (akin to aspirin) that is not an irritant. It has a pretty high antioxidant value and is quite antimicrobial: http://www.actabp.pl/pdf/2_2014/359.pdf. It also has a history of being used for intestinal disorders among other things. Though in this case I have no idea how well it stacks up to aspirin. Gelatin can be beneficial in that it can increase healing of the intestinal barrier though a lot of people with intestinal issues have trouble with gelatin powder. Simplified proteins like gelatin might feed potentially pathogenic bacteria in some people. Rather eating collagen rich foods is probably safer, but again some people do well with gelatin.
Note that being constipated is probably a worse sign than experiencing diarrhea.
 

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Yes this could be true, I went through a period of extreme, I mean extreme stress for a month before these symptoms started.



Ahh I see, seems quite complex. I would really like to not be on the PPIs....would raw garlic suffice as an antimicrobial? Is taking the Aspirin+Gelatin combination still a viable treatment? Thanks for your original reply and thanks to everyone in here, I've been seriously distressed over all of this for at least 3 months.

edit: I should add that I haven't suffered from any sort of diarrhea since the symptoms started which I find odd....just absolutely lost at the moment and the doctors do nothing unfortunately.
Do you have full mobility in your spine? If not, you have chronic postural damage and it is always accompanied by corresponding fascial tension pulling you upright. The first step is to reset posture so that you have complete mobility in spine and pelvis, so you can get your palms easily to the ground leaning forward. There should not be any bumps in the spine, it should move as one unit, even from the neck. Once you arrive at this point you will find that each and every health complaint you had is a thing of the past. But it can be a LONG project if there is considerable damage. Looking at the population well over 90% walk around with some degree of chronic postural damage.

adam savage is a prime example of serious chronic postural damage (i randomly saw one of his videos yesterday and got sad seeing his health)
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https://youtu.be/zyaocKS3sfg?t=508

A friend of mine is a long time professional athlete with much physical damage in addition to the resulting postural damage. He has had two prostate cancers and one kidney cancer that i now believe stem from an extreme level of fascial tension combined with other stressors. He also had digestion issues for a long time, even diarrhea/constipation. And the latest development is stomach ache and burping to which he got prescribed PPI which gave immediate relief. H.pylori was negative. I believe it is caused by fascial tension pulling on the stomach, inflaming it which leads to the protective layer breaking down from high gastric acidity. Next step is probably ulcer if he continues relying on PPI instead of trying to fix the cause.
 
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