29 YO Male - Lifelong ED - Help?

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Not eating enough wreak this much havoc? Absolutely, it can. It's like a chain of dominoes falling. I don't think it works to try pick them up one by one. I think you need to go to the principles that started the whole thing falling. Enough good quality calories is fundamental. There's a thread here about youreatopia which will give you an idea of how many you need.
 

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sueq said:
Not eating enough wreak this much havoc? Absolutely, it can. It's like a chain of dominoes falling. I don't think it works to try pick them up one by one. I think you need to go to the principles that started the whole thing falling. Enough good quality calories is fundamental. There's a thread here about youreatopia which will give you an idea of how many you need.
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I remembered something Peat said in an interview once. He stated that men coming out of starvation sometimes develop gynecomastia. Apparently one of the roles of estrogen is to slow down the metabolism to help survive stress and starvation. Eating lots of sugar and protein helps liver detox estrogen.

I would suggest using antiestrogenic substances like vitamin E and keeping an eye on your nipples. If your nipples start to feel sore or sensitive go to the doctor immediately and see if you can get medical grade anti-estrogens. It might not even be a bad idea to get some right now. Temporarily a lot of vitamins can help prevent this condition as can nicotine from patches on gum. Nicotine is mostly harmless but is slight negative in young healthy people. Might work for you though, if you need quick anti-estrogens. No smoking, the smoke is estrogenic and toxic.
 

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Hugh, thank you ever so much for your post. What you have described sums me up perfectly. To cut a long story short, I had gyno throughout puberty, went through a period of starvation and lost a tonne of weight and my gyno dissapeared. Since i returned to eating using PEAT staples and uppping calories, my gyno has returned with a vengeance!

Your post seems to outline how to prevent gyno, but my question is now I have developed gyno (AGAIN :( ), how do i get rid of it? The more I eat the more seem to gain (fat) and my gyno worsens. I know i need to eat to restore my hormonal balance but with a rise in fat and thus estrogen its hard. What sugars would you recommend - fructose/sucrose?

I am taking vitamin E, and Aspirin - i notice my gyno is markedly improved on aspirin but not banished. Im also on Levothyroxine for my Hypo, and take BCAAS, Taurine.

Would you recommend the nicotine patch route?
 

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The most important thing first. Levothuroxine is probably useless, might even be harmful. Read Thyroid: Therapies, Confusion, and Fraud in here: http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/thyroid.shtml. You need T3. Get Armour thyroid or any of the useful products. That should make a huge difference.

Don't procrastinate on that. Read that whole article and go get some thyroid.

I don't know if gyno can be reversed at this point. However, once your metabolism is fixed and gyno has been stabilized it's pretty minor surgery. But no harm in trying. I think you should minimize estrogen by whatever means necessary, at least it should stabilize the situation. Haidut's estroban or same vitamin's from supplements can work, zinc and selenium are also antiestogenic. Get methylated selenium or selenum from yeast, since it is potentially toxic and I understand that is the safest from. Zinc is non-toxic, so try perhaps 300 mg a day for a week and then 50 a day.

Nicotine is probably useful if you can't get any proper anti-estrogens. You might get some real aromatize inhibitors from your doctor. If not, it's possible to get them from better-than-legal sources but in that case you need to really do your research and think things through.

You should also consider trying to reduce growth hormone levels, since they seem to be related to gyno. HG levels are generally associated with lactic acid which is produced in absence of oxygen. Lactase may also have something to do with estrogen. So start bag breathing and maybe Buteyko breathing too.

For a diet, perhaps once you get proper thyroid hormones, the fat gain might fix itself. However, you could try to recomp by eating huge amounts of sugar. For me eating a sugar & protein diet makes me seriously hyperthyroid. You need to get the sugar from nutritious food and get at least 100 g of protein though. Get the protein from skimmed milk and gelatin.

In Tissue-bound estrogen in aging Peat mentioned gyno being caused by estrogen, which is produced everywhere. You should probably ignore tara's advice if you have gyno, since getting fat would almost certainly make it worse.

Although we commonly think of the ovaries as the main source of estrogen, the enzyme which makes it can be found in all parts of the body. Surprisingly, in rhesus monkeys, aromatase in the arms accounts for a very large part of estrogen production. Fat and the skin are major sources of estrogen, especially in older people. The activity of aromatase increases with aging, and under the influence of prolactin, cortisol, prostaglandin, and the pituitary hormones, FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and growth hormone. It is inhibited by progesterone, thyroid, aspirin, and high altitude. Aromatase can produce estrogen in fat cells, fibroblasts, smooth muscle cells, breast and uterine tissue, pancreas, liver, brain, bone, skin, etc. Its action in breast cancer, endometriosis, uterine cancer, lupus, gynecomastia, and many other diseases is especially important. Aromatase in mammary tissue appears to increase estrogen receptors and cause breast neoplasia, independently of ovarian estrogen (Tekmal, et al., 1999).

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/tissue-bound-estrogen.shtml

He also mentioned that growth hormone treatments sometimes causing gyno in Growth hormone: Hormone of Stress, Aging, & Death? http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/growth-hormone.shtml

This is probably due to estrogens effects being mediated be GH. In Diabetes, scleroderma, oils and hormones he wrote:

Spellacy and Carlson suggested that estrogen's effect was mediated by growth hormone, and that is now the consensus. Women are much more likely than men to develop diabetes.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/diabetes.shtml

Read the thyroid article, and get something with T3. You should read my sources and make your own judgements because I could very well have gotten this all wrong.
 
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Hugh, you mention zinc, do you know which ones don't cause nausea, I have tried picolinate and sulphate, both make me feel very sick
 

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Then don't take it then. I recall an article I can't find about someone having bad reactions to copper and later testing it, only to find out he was copper deficient. Copper and zinc are intricately related.

For now leave it, but you should probably get your copper and zinc levels tested. A bad reaction to zinc might mean one of them is out of whack.

You really should be concentrating on getting sugar, and reading Peat's thyroid articles. I really believe that getting T3 is going to be crucial to your recovery.
 
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Any updates op?

my hormone tests always come back fine, I think its a prostate issue, im always constipated and maybe there is some inflammation

I notice when I'm regular and softer, my erection function seems best
 

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my hormone tests always come back fine, I think its a prostate issue, im always constipated and maybe there is some inflammation

I notice when I'm regular and softer, my erection function seems best

In which case it may not be hormonal at all. There could be physical damage, such as to the pelvis, or you may have venous leakage. Those are something you'll need to see a specialist to check.
 

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I haven't read all of this, but didn't see any discussion of masturbation. @mlc2010, do you masturbate regularly? It seems you have some systemic health problems behind this, but if you are masturbating regularly, it could be playing a role. I've read many accounts of stopping masturbation curing ED.
 
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