29 YO Male - Lifelong ED - Help?

[tara]

Hi. If you feel like answering nosey questions:
-Do you feel like laying out what (including roughly how much) you are eating? Are you trying to incorporate some of Peat's nutrition ideas?
-Does this satisfy your current appetite, or are you holding yourself back from eating more, or struggling to keep it up?
-How long since you got yourself up to your current weight from your extremely low previous weight?
-Did things improve when you did this?

I agree with Blossom, it's worth reading Peat's articles and/or listening to his interviews to get some ideas about his approach.

 

[Daimyo]

I know your testosterone level is "normal" but you have symptoms of low testosterone. Do you work out in the gym? If yes, try to get to know some meatheds and get some testosterone. It's quite cheep - like 35 pounds for 10 ml vial (250mg test ethanate). Alternatively you can order some from http://www.buysteroidsuk.com/ (I used this site and they send you good gear).

Get like 200 -250ml of testosterone a week and you will be good to go ;-). Just keep in mind that when you will want to go off (or if) you would have to do a PCT (post Cycle Therapy) - to quickly restore your natural testosterone production.

Also for few weeks you can enhance your libido by taking dianabol. It will make you a sexual tyrannosaur, so you'd better have a nice lady (or ladies) to take care of your increased needs. Dianabl is hard on the liver, so it can't be used for long time. U also might google about " dianabol pulsing cycle" - it will give you libido boosting and anabolic benefits of taking dianabol without shutting you down. In fact it could increase your natural production of testosterone (if taken 3x a week in the morning).

It's not a "cure" just a way to manage your condition...

 

[mlc2010]

I know your testosterone level is "normal" but you have symptoms of low testosterone. Do you work out in the gym? If yes, try to get to know some meatheds and get some testosterone. It's quite cheep - like 35 pounds for 10 ml vial (250mg test ethanate). Alternatively you can order some from http://www.buysteroidsuk.com/ (I used this site and they send you good gear).

Get like 200 -250ml of testosterone a week and you will be good to go ;-). Just keep in mind that when you will want to go off (or if) you would have to do a PCT (post Cycle Therapy) - to quickly restore your natural testosterone production.

Also for few weeks you can enhance your libido by taking dianabol. It will make you a sexual tyrannosaur, so you'd better have a nice lady (or ladies) to take care of your increased needs. Dianabl is hard on the liver, so it can't be used for long time. U also might google about " dianabol pulsing cycle" - it will give you libido boosting and anabolic benefits of taking dianabol without shutting you down. In fact it could increase your natural production of testosterone (if taken 3x a week in the morning).

It's not a "cure" just a way to manage your condition...

Hey, thank you for reply, but I will have to disagree with you here. I have studied AAS for many years, and I don't think taking testosterone will improve my problems. Granted it may give me a lot of muscle bulk and fix my anxiety issues, but for what cost? What if the pct doesn't work? I will be relying on shots for years..

Also, I'm not sure Dianabol is the best steroid to take, as its estrogen based and very harsh on liver and lipids. It also adds a lot of water weight, there are better choices for pills

 

[mlc2010]

Hi. If you feel like answering nosey questions:
-Do you feel like laying out what (including roughly how much) you are eating? Are you trying to incorporate some of Peat's nutrition ideas?
-Does this satisfy your current appetite, or are you holding yourself back from eating more, or struggling to keep it up?
-How long since you got yourself up to your current weight from your extremely low previous weight?
-Did things improve when you did this?

I agree with Blossom, it's worth reading Peat's articles and/or listening to his interviews to get some ideas about his approach.

Hello,
i couldn't tell you what I'm eating, but its not enough, I don't have much of an appetite, that may be due to fact I have high cortisol or fact I have horrible digestion.
I got myself up from my low weight around 4 years ago, it took me about a year to add 40 pounds and people said I looked much healthier

 

[tara]

i couldn't tell you what I'm eating, but its not enough, I don't have much of an appetite, that may be due to fact I have high cortisol or fact I have horrible digestion.
I got myself up from my low weight around 4 years ago, it took me about a year to add 40 pounds and people said I looked much healthier

Hi, there might well be other contributors too, but this looks a likely candidate for why your hormones and muscles and digestion etc are not working the way you want yet. Congratulations on working your way up from the extreme danger zone.
I'm not an expert on ED's - just about everything I know about it comes from Gwyneth Olwyn at youreatopia.com. That site is not all Peat-compatible, but I think the idea of consistently supplying enough energy makes sense, and Gwyneth has a lot of experience supporting people with recovery. She says it takes a while of consistently eating above minimum energy guidelines (http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/ ... ories.html) to get through the stages of recovery - for an adult male like you, of the order of 3000 kcal, and neither the muscles nor the hormones are typically the first to rebuild.

In an ongoing energy deficit, the body will sacifice what it sees as less essential in the short term to improve your odds of surviving the current famine. Muscles are metabolically expensive to maintain. High metabolism - including healthy thyroid function - would require catabolising too much of your body too fast. So keeping metabolic rate low and not investing in muscle is very wise of your body, when there is not enough fuel to support them.

Unfortunately, the repair process is not always a smooth ride, as you probably found out by now.

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff you already know.

What food do you like to eat?
Have you found your way to some suggested food guidelines on this forum? There are some suggestions for getting necessary nutrients without overloading the digestion and metabolism with too much unhelpful stuff.

 

[mlc2010]

Hi, there might well be other contributors too, but this looks a likely candidate for why your hormones and muscles and digestion etc are not working the way you want yet. Congratulations on working your way up from the extreme danger zone.
I'm not an expert on ED's - just about everything I know about it comes from Gwyneth Olwyn at youreatopia.com. That site is not all Peat-compatible, but I think the idea of consistently supplying enough energy makes sense, and Gwyneth has a lot of experience supporting people with recovery. She says it takes a while of consistently eating above minimum energy guidelines (http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/ ... ories.html) to get through the stages of recovery - for an adult male like you, of the order of 3000 kcal, and neither the muscles nor the hormones are typically the first to rebuild.

In an ongoing energy deficit, the body will sacifice what it sees as less essential in the short term to improve your odds of surviving the current famine. Muscles are metabolically expensive to maintain. High metabolism - including healthy thyroid function - would require catabolising too much of your body too fast. So keeping metabolic rate low and not investing in muscle is very wise of your body, when there is not enough fuel to support them.

Unfortunately, the repair process is not always a smooth ride, as you probably found out by now.

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff you already know.

What food do you like to eat?
Have you found your way to some suggested food guidelines on this forum? There are some suggestions for getting necessary nutrients without overloading the digestion and metabolism with too much unhelpful stuff.

I eat a main meal, normally chicken, beef, steak, then snacks around it.. mostly sandwiches, which aren't ideal

I used to make huge calorie drinks a while back, with whole milk, bananas, oatmeal, protein powder.. all blended together

I will check out the forum guidelines for food ideas, which thread has food ideas?

 

[Gl;itch.e]

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff you already know.

lol re-PEAT-ing! Sorry not adding anything to this discussion. Just found that funny Tara! (;

 

[tara]

Here are some ideas on general guidelines:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20
People are different, and some foods work well for some and not for others.

There are also lots of more specific food thoughts in the Diet subforum.

There are a few recipes here:
viewforum.php?f=17

And Peat's website articles here:
raypeat.com/articles/
Articles and interviews here:
viewforum.php?f=18

Quite a few people use gelatine as their protein powder in milk or juice-based drinks.

If you browse more threads you'll get more ideas.

Just wanteed to add - I'm not an expert on Peat's ideas either - I'm a relative new-comer to it.

 

[Curt :-)]

Hey man, I haven't read the whole thread, sorry. Have you considered that it might be mental? I definitely think our biochemistry dictates a lot, but just the fact that you say it's "lifelong" makes me think that maybe your physiology was fine when you were younger, yet this issue began anyway?
Also, is libido decent? I think when libido gets higher (in the moment), it's enough to make you forget mental stuff.
Again, apologies if this has been covered already

 

[repeat]

Haven't read the entire thread, so sorry if I missed something.

My suggestion is Moducare.
I'm thinking of the cortisol/dhea -ratio... you could search google and look for reviews to know if it will suit you.

 

[tara]

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff you already know.

lol re-PEAT-ing! Sorry not adding anything to this discussion. Just found that funny Tara! (;

Tee hee.

 

[repeat]

Sorry if I'm repeating stuff you already know.

lol re-PEAT-ing! Sorry not adding anything to this discussion. Just found that funny Tara! (;

I'm here repeating myself

 

[tara]

We could get some abbreviation confusion here, too, if we don't really pay attention to context, because we seem to have ED leading to ED.

 

[mlc2010]

Hey man, I haven't read the whole thread, sorry. Have you considered that it might be mental? I definitely think our biochemistry dictates a lot, but just the fact that you say it's "lifelong" makes me think that maybe your physiology was fine when you were younger, yet this issue began anyway?
Also, is libido decent? I think when libido gets higher (in the moment), it's enough to make you forget mental stuff.
Again, apologies if this has been covered already

it could be mental, hence why im borderline asking for penis injections

hard to have a libido too when I know it won't work, some sort of negative feedback loop

 

[Dayman]

some ideas
Work on reducing cortisol, try an adaptogen like rhodolia rosea, and having sugar and salt. try ice cream if you think your calories are low, also I enjoy sweetened condensed milk.
Adequate protein is important for part of your livers detox mechanism so get that up if it is low.
TSH is high, have to reread but Ray Peat says people with TSH above 2 usually don't feel well.
Also you should be pooping, the cortisol, or something in your diet is likely preventing it, or the low amount of food is just not moving things along, maybe why you find you need to exercise.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Hi. I'd like to point you out to some research that might help. In Genes, Carbon Dioxide and Adaptation he stated the following:

But Williams' genetic doctrine assumed that our nutritional needs were primarily inborn, determined by our unique genes. However, there is a famous experiment in which rats were made deficient in riboflavin, and when their corneal tissue showed evidence of the vitamin deficiency, they were given a standard diet. However, the standard diet no longer met the needs of their eye tissue, and during the remainder of the observation period, only a dose of riboflavin several times higher than normal would prevent the signs of deficiency. A developmental change had taken place in the cornea, making its vitamin B2 requirement abnormally high.

You may have extraordinarily high requirements of some nutrients so I think you might benefit from trying out a number of supplement. You can go to the supplements forum and use Toxinless search engine to find god supplements. Just try out the ones that are safe to megadose first, because you can't really hurt yourself with K2, but you can with copper.

I also just saw this posted in the research section: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=4010 So K2 and Vitamin E might be good things to test.

For diet, I would recommend try to constantly consume sugar either from milk or salted orange juice. Assuming you have no issues with them. Please try to get at least 100 grams of protein and 200 grams of sugar during the day.

Anyway, try things out. Sometimes one little thing can cause a huge and fast improvement.

 

[mlc2010]

I started with some supplements, vitamin E, niacin, l-carnitine and some pro-biotics. My morning erections are still non existent ever since I took preg pills. My prog is 3x over the range, any way to lower it?

can uti/prostate infection cause no morning erections, shrinkage, frequent pee, weak stream and dribbling?

 

[natedawggh]

Hi All,
so, we have High Tsh, High Cortisol, High SHBG, High Prolactin, High RT3 and Low IGF-1. My VIT D/B12 etc are all top of range. Any help would be appreciated?

Hi mic2010. Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had ED regularly between the ages of 27-31. I used to think it was performance anxiety/anxiety in general. It is not. First off... don't worry about your high progesterone. If you took pregeneolone your body made it into progesterone, that means your body was deficient in it and is making it to protect yourself. Progesterone is protective. it is not a bad thing....worry about the high cortisol, TSH, etc. I used actual progesterone and it gave me really great erections, because progesterone pulls extra-cellular water into your blood, thus increasing your blood volume (which is healthy). You're right to be worried about those steroids. Viagra, Cialis, etc. too, all work by increasing nitric oxide, which DESTROYS your body. Finasteride too is a poison, so if you have thinning hair don't take it and if you have, look up Finasteride poisoning.

OK...It's no wonder you can't get aroused, all your stress hormones are soaring... and when your body is stressed, sexual function and the hair on your head are the first things to be sacrificed in order to keep your body functioning. Now... it really doesn't matter what your tests are. This thread is waaayyy to focused on your labs. We know something's wrong and now we know what, you don't need to worry about it or dwell on it. You can start finding relief as soon as your turn your diet around.

That's the part you haven't talked about, and diet is the entire point when talking about Ray Peat and his work. What is your diet like? What have you been eating growing up, and what do you eat now? Do you drink alcohol (if you do, you probably have zero thiamine)? Even though you didn't post any info, I'd be surprised to find out that your diet was exclusive to healthy foods. The muscle meats, unsaturated fats, starch, alcohol, all generally contribute to destroy cellular respiration and especially in your case you will want to increase cellular respiration as much as possible.

Reading Ray peat you can find lots of information on what foods are good, but in case you don't know this info yet, generally (and the better you adhere to it the quicker your recovery will be) are fruits——lots and lots of fruits and dairy. Aspirin can help you out, adequate salt too. Coffee is great but never with low blood sugar and you should especially look at adding coconut oil to your diet. It helps protect your cells while increasing your body's energy. When you are able to increase your body's energy properly, your stress hormones will decline and the healthy ones will rise.

One way to track your progress (and the best way) is to take your temperature and pulse rate in the morning, after you eat, afternoon, before dinner, after dinner, and bed. Aim for 98.6+ (F) and a heart rate towards 80 BPM, watch what foods help you get there and stick to those. Track this every day for a couple weeks, and you'll be able to tell what helps and better understand your own metabolism and how it relates to how you feel.

Stop taking l-carnintine and pro-biotics. Stop most supplements, really. You should really only use Niacinamide (instead of Niacin,) and add B1 (thiamine), which will help your body use the carbs you eat as fuel instead of storing them. Shrimp, muscles, clams, oysters are good nutrient foods, and liver can help as well, if you can eat those. If you feel better with pregnenolone, then of course, take it.

 

[mlc2010]

Hi mic2010. Sorry to hear about your troubles. I had ED regularly between the ages of 27-31. I used to think it was performance anxiety/anxiety in general. It is not. First off... don't worry about your high progesterone. If you took pregeneolone your body made it into progesterone, that means your body was deficient in it and is making it to protect yourself. Progesterone is protective. it is not a bad thing....worry about the high cortisol, TSH, etc. I used actual progesterone and it gave me really great erections, because progesterone pulls extra-cellular water into your blood, thus increasing your blood volume (which is healthy). You're right to be worried about those steroids. Viagra, Cialis, etc. too, all work by increasing nitric oxide, which DESTROYS your body. Finasteride too is a poison, so if you have thinning hair don't take it and if you have, look up Finasteride poisoning.

OK...It's no wonder you can't get aroused, all your stress hormones are soaring... and when your body is stressed, sexual function and the hair on your head are the first things to be sacrificed in order to keep your body functioning. Now... it really doesn't matter what your tests are. This thread is waaayyy to focused on your labs. We know something's wrong and now we know what, you don't need to worry about it or dwell on it. You can start finding relief as soon as your turn your diet around.

That's the part you haven't talked about, and diet is the entire point when talking about Ray Peat and his work. What is your diet like? What have you been eating growing up, and what do you eat now? Do you drink alcohol (if you do, you probably have zero thiamine)? Even though you didn't post any info, I'd be surprised to find out that your diet was exclusive to healthy foods. The muscle meats, unsaturated fats, starch, alcohol, all generally contribute to destroy cellular respiration and especially in your case you will want to increase cellular respiration as much as possible.

Reading Ray peat you can find lots of information on what foods are good, but in case you don't know this info yet, generally (and the better you adhere to it the quicker your recovery will be) are fruits——lots and lots of fruits and dairy. Aspirin can help you out, adequate salt too. Coffee is great but never with low blood sugar and you should especially look at adding coconut oil to your diet. It helps protect your cells while increasing your body's energy. When you are able to increase your body's energy properly, your stress hormones will decline and the healthy ones will rise.

One way to track your progress (and the best way) is to take your temperature and pulse rate in the morning, after you eat, afternoon, before dinner, after dinner, and bed. Aim for 98.6+ (F) and a heart rate towards 80 BPM, watch what foods help you get there and stick to those. Track this every day for a couple weeks, and you'll be able to tell what helps and better understand your own metabolism and how it relates to how you feel.

Stop taking l-carnintine and pro-biotics. Stop most supplements, really. You should really only use Niacinamide (instead of Niacin,) and add B1 (thiamine), which will help your body use the carbs you eat as fuel instead of storing them. Shrimp, muscles, clams, oysters are good nutrient foods, and liver can help as well, if you can eat those. If you feel better with pregnenolone, then of course, take it.

Thank you for long reply. I couldnt tell you what my diet is like but its not good, its never settled and I don't eat nearly enough but I had no idea it can wreck this much havoc. What brand of prog did you use? It might be worth giving it a try

 

[lexis]

Do a google search on 'calcium influx and ED'