Why do you assume I trust the government. The thinking styles I've referenced have to do with group consensus politics. I am aware of the many confounding variables that muddy the numbers, but I'm not going to pretend I know with full sovereignty of knowledge what is actually going on here. 50,000 people dying from respirator protocols is very different than over reporting numbers, dying from preexisting conditions, false positive tests, etc etc. But members here will reposition themselves constantly and defensively. First it was comparing everything to the flu numbers. As numbers increase then it becomes a different argument. Don't you see that I'm not questioning any of these arguments, im questioning the psychology and I'm questioning the defensive presumptuousness as well as the sort of hive dismissal of members like me for simply presenting a number and scratching my head. All of a sudden I'm some kind of detractor. And if members here think they are enlightened because of their access to compelling fringe information and studies, their behavior with such info. totally cancels out any enlightenment they think they have....because this exact psychology is used in any group. Members will rail against the establishment but not see they are creating their own establishment.
It has been known for a long time that panic and stress can themselves cause increased mortality (see photo I attached). One of the examples are deadly therapies used for supposedly deadly covid-19, but it is by far not the only reason. I copied a story from Italy below that illustrates it well. It is a fact that increased mortality appeared after the panic and lock-downs, not before, and that it was the worst in countries with the most drastic measures. Also, it has been known for a long time that viruses are abused for commercial gains and that very little is actually known about them (this book explains it very well; deadly therapies other than ventilators are also described). So why on Earth would anyone believe this time that the virus is deadly, particularly when it belongs to a group of common cold viruses. The whole story is simply bizarre and full of inconsistencies.
"We have also received the following message from an observer in Italy, who gives further details about the dramatic situation there, which is obviously due to far more than a virus:
„In recent weeks, most of the Eastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the „emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.
Many of these abandoned people then ended up after a few days in the hospitals, which had been permanently overloaded for years, because they were dehydrated, among other things. Unfortunately, the hospitals lacked the personnel who had to look after the children locked up in their apartments because schools and kindergartens had been closed. This then led to the complete collapse of the care for the disabled and the elderly, especially in those areas where even harder „measures“ were ordered, and to chaotic conditions.
The nursing emergency, which was caused by the panic, temporarily led to many deaths among those in need of care and increasingly among younger patients in the hospitals. These fatalities then served to cause even more panic among those in charge and the media, who reported, for example, „another 475 fatalities“, „The dead are being removed from hospitals by the army“, accompanied by pictures of coffins and army trucks lined up.
However, this was the result of the funeral directors‘ fear of the „killer virus“, who therefore refused their services. Moreover, on the one hand there were too many deaths at once and on the other hand the government passed a law that the corpses carrying the coronavirus had to be cremated. In Catholic Italy, few cremations had been carried out in the past. Therefore there were only a few small crematoria, which very quickly reached their limits. Therefore the deceased had to be laid out in different churches.
In principle, this development is the same in all countries. However, the quality of the health system has a considerable influence on the effects. Therefore, there are fewer problems in Germany, Austria or Switzerland than in Italy, Spain or the USA. However, as can be seen in the official figures, there is no significant increase in the mortality rate. Just a small mountain that came from this tragedy.“"
Facts about Covid-19