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New Lawsuit Tells Of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials To Take Estrogen As Behavior Control “Medication”

Written by Celeste Fremon

On June 7, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted on a new motion co-authored by Supervisors Mark Ridley-Thomas and Janice Hahn, that when it passed early on Tuesday afternoon, will reinstate the funding for the long-planned and much-anticipated Probation Oversight Commission or POC, that was slashed at last week’s board meeting.

(We wrote here about last week’s budget-slashing, and about the importance of funding the POC.)

Then, over the weekend, WitnessLA received a copy of a newly-filed complaint against LA County, which described a teenage boy who was in one of probation’s juvenile halls when he was allegedly forced against his will, and without his parent’s knowledge, into an extremely unusual form of “treatment,” by various medical professionals who work inside probation’s youth facilities.

The story is an alarming one, and it illustrates one more time why so many youth advocates and others believe that civilian oversight of the nation’s largest probation department is urgent.

Here’s the deal.

Hormones for teenage boys

On June 25, 2019, just a little over a year ago, a 16-year-old boy (whom we’ll call Javier, to protect his identity) had just been detained and sent to Central Juvenile Hall, one of the county’s two remaining juvenile halls, located northeast of downtown LA, on Eastlake Avenue.

At Eastlake, as the hall is often known, Javier was given a physical examination by some of the facility’s medical personnel.

According to the complaint, during the June 25, 2019, exam, medical staff first administered a blood test, then a urine test, after which Dr. Danny Wang determined that Javier had slightly elevated testosterone levels.

Javier was, after all, a teenager, which meant his hormones were likely to be bouncing quite a bit.

But in Javier’s case, the physician who examined him reportedly diagnosed him with Oppositional Defiance Disorder, or ODD, then elected to prescribe an unusual form of medication, with the idea that it would make the boy less “aggressive.”

(Dr. Wang and any other medical professionals dealing with mental health or physical in probation’s halls and camps, don’t work for probation directly. In the case of Dr. Wang and Dr. David Oh, they work for Juvenile Court Health Services, which is a part of the Department of Health Services.)**

ODD, as it is known, is not an uncommon diagnosis for boys and girls who come in contact with the juvenile justice system. In the deeply-researched “Los Angeles County Probation Outcomes Report” of 2015, lead author Dr. Denise Herz, and her co-authors, found that 92 percent the kids in LA County Probation’s care had some kind of mental health diagnosis out of the American Psychiatric Associations Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In the case of probation’s kids, the report found that Disruptive Behavior Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), and a couple of other unpleasantly named “mood disorders,” were diagnosed 58 percent of the time.

And of course, once there is a diagnosis, treatment often follows and, in LA’s juvenile facilities, that treatment is too often medication.

In Javier’s case, the medication was Estradiol, which is a form of the female hormone estrogen that is most commonly used by women to help reduce symptoms of menopause.

Wang reportedly prescribed 30 doses of the stuff, to be taken daily, all without Javier’s parents’ knowledge or permission. Javier was reportedly given his first estrogen treatment in the form of three vaccinations.

Worried, Javier told the medical people that he’d not given permission to be given any drugs or medicine, and asked what the stuff was for. The nurse reportedly — falsely– told the teenager that it was to treat a small “nodule” on his chest.

Javier was still uncomfortable with taking the mystery medication. At first, he said he would refuse to take it. Then reportedly, one of the medical staff told him he could not in fact refuse. Javier’s probation officer was also standing nearby when the conversation took place, and reiterated that Javier didn’t have a choice in the matter.

Later, Javier would tell his parents, and his lawyer, Wesley G Ouchi, that he was afraid of getting a negative “write up,” by staff members that could be reported to the judge and “negatively affect” his case, as the judge had threatened to make his sentence longer and harsher, possibly even sending him to the state’s Department of Juvenile Justice system (DJJ), unless he ran a good program, and got zero write-ups.

Hormone storm

Fearful about giving staff any reason to criticize his behavior, Javier took the Estradiol, as he was instructed.

“Replacement hormones” like Estradiol are powerful and almost most immediately Javier began to feel strange and sick. According to the complaint, the effects were “physical, emotional, cognitive, and psychological.”

And then he began to grow breasts. Really, it was more of a swelling on his chest than actual boobs. But the weird boob-like swellings were visible to other kids, said attorney, Wes Ouchi, when WitnessLA spoke to him. And then, of course, the teasing began.

Javier also broke out in pimples on his face, scalp, and body.

He became depressed, and couldn’t concentrate. He was highly anxious, had a hard time controlling his thoughts. The teasing from other boys didn’t help.

Finally, after 13 doses, a desperate Javier refused the treatment, write-ups, or no write-ups and, this time, he stuck to it.

After he refused treatment, Dr. Wang and his boss Dr. David Oh, told his parents about the treatment. At least, sort of. He didn’t really explain what the treatment actually was.

So, did Javier really receive any kind of accepted treatment?

As far as attorney Ouchi has been able to determine, the answer is no.

“There is no any kind of indication that providing Estrodial to an adolescent male is any kind of accepted treatment for anything,” he said. “We think it was an experiment. And we think it’s likely not the only time they used the treatment, experimentally.”

So far, WitnessLA’s preliminary probe of the matter yields the same utter lack of studies or academic papers on the topic.

Ouchi and his firm haven’t done discovery yet, he said. So they are just at the beginning stages in probing the case more deeply. Yet, he believes there’s lots more to be uncovered, noting the curious fact that the doctors seemed to have had the drug handy when Javier was first examined when, obviously, Estrodial is not a normal drug to just keep on hand, such as Tylenol or a broad-spectrum antibiotic.

Ouchi is interested, he said, to find out if there are other teenage boys in probation’s system who were given estrogen in this potentially purely experimental manner, which he described as “potentially criminal.”

UCLA’s Dr. Jorja Leap, who was part of the planning for the POC, and one of the co-authors of the deeply researched LA County Probation Governance Report, was very disturbed by the implications of the new lawsuit.

“These troubling developments point to the need for real oversight with power to hold probation — and those from other county agencies, who work inside probation’s facilities — fully accountable when they harm those in their care,” she told us.

(You can read the full complaint right here.)

https://witnessla.com/new-lawsuit-t...9Pz1v4eRpkv39SNIoHHfPF-CZ4-A-hH93TxUw7zvMN1B4
 

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State enforced homosexuality is a meme until it isn't.

Welcome to the collapse of Western Civilization.

Chinese scholars will study us with a mix of admiration, wonder and despondency.
 

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Disgusting, scary.

Will any of the so called medical professionals be forced to forever leave the profession? I doubt it.

Sick: you don’t even know of they wanna study estradiols detrimental effects or if some of these grotesque doctors really belief estrogen is a benign hormone that would make aggressive boys more docile.

Estradiol causing depression and acne? Will they even notice that?
 

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If we do not stop these Matriarchal monsters soon enough, they will eventually force that anti-masculinity hormone of madness into any male who exhibits strong masculine psychological traits such as:

1) Strong individuality and rejection of the mainstream.

2) Aversion towards the hyperfeminity of "modern" "Western " society and natural attachment to seek the opposite..

3) Desire to compete, a masculine trait that is discouraged today (after being a main propeller of evolution).

4) Aggression towards a system that tells you you are the evil of earth, while using male-created technology to even spread their garbage.

Etc.

Must stop these monsters, for our future,... They are destroying young men's lives, and every Hetero Man who didn't cower from expressing his masculinity, born after ~1960 has been a victim of a system that is completely against him. While all sorts of "feminity" - even it's depravations - have been rewarded.
 

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New Lawsuit Tells Of 16-Year-Old Boy Allegedly Forced By County Officials To Take Estrogen As Behavior Control “Medication”

Written by Celeste Fremon

On June 7, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted on a new motion co-authored by Supervisors Mark Ridley-Thomas and Janice Hahn, that when it passed early on Tuesday afternoon, will reinstate the funding for the long-planned and much-anticipated Probation Oversight Commission or POC, that was slashed at last week’s board meeting.

(We wrote here about last week’s budget-slashing, and about the importance of funding the POC.)

Then, over the weekend, WitnessLA received a copy of a newly-filed complaint against LA County, which described a teenage boy who was in one of probation’s juvenile halls when he was allegedly forced against his will, and without his parent’s knowledge, into an extremely unusual form of “treatment,” by various medical professionals who work inside probation’s youth facilities.

The story is an alarming one, and it illustrates one more time why so many youth advocates and others believe that civilian oversight of the nation’s largest probation department is urgent.

Here’s the deal.

Hormones for teenage boys

On June 25, 2019, just a little over a year ago, a 16-year-old boy (whom we’ll call Javier, to protect his identity) had just been detained and sent to Central Juvenile Hall, one of the county’s two remaining juvenile halls, located northeast of downtown LA, on Eastlake Avenue.

At Eastlake, as the hall is often known, Javier was given a physical examination by some of the facility’s medical personnel.

According to the complaint, during the June 25, 2019, exam, medical staff first administered a blood test, then a urine test, after which Dr. Danny Wang determined that Javier had slightly elevated testosterone levels.

Javier was, after all, a teenager, which meant his hormones were likely to be bouncing quite a bit.

But in Javier’s case, the physician who examined him reportedly diagnosed him with Oppositional Defiance Disorder, or ODD, then elected to prescribe an unusual form of medication, with the idea that it would make the boy less “aggressive.”

(Dr. Wang and any other medical professionals dealing with mental health or physical in probation’s halls and camps, don’t work for probation directly. In the case of Dr. Wang and Dr. David Oh, they work for Juvenile Court Health Services, which is a part of the Department of Health Services.)**

ODD, as it is known, is not an uncommon diagnosis for boys and girls who come in contact with the juvenile justice system. In the deeply-researched “Los Angeles County Probation Outcomes Report” of 2015, lead author Dr. Denise Herz, and her co-authors, found that 92 percent the kids in LA County Probation’s care had some kind of mental health diagnosis out of the American Psychiatric Associations Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. In the case of probation’s kids, the report found that Disruptive Behavior Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), and a couple of other unpleasantly named “mood disorders,” were diagnosed 58 percent of the time.

And of course, once there is a diagnosis, treatment often follows and, in LA’s juvenile facilities, that treatment is too often medication.

In Javier’s case, the medication was Estradiol, which is a form of the female hormone estrogen that is most commonly used by women to help reduce symptoms of menopause.

Wang reportedly prescribed 30 doses of the stuff, to be taken daily, all without Javier’s parents’ knowledge or permission. Javier was reportedly given his first estrogen treatment in the form of three vaccinations.

Worried, Javier told the medical people that he’d not given permission to be given any drugs or medicine, and asked what the stuff was for. The nurse reportedly — falsely– told the teenager that it was to treat a small “nodule” on his chest.

Javier was still uncomfortable with taking the mystery medication. At first, he said he would refuse to take it. Then reportedly, one of the medical staff told him he could not in fact refuse. Javier’s probation officer was also standing nearby when the conversation took place, and reiterated that Javier didn’t have a choice in the matter.

Later, Javier would tell his parents, and his lawyer, Wesley G Ouchi, that he was afraid of getting a negative “write up,” by staff members that could be reported to the judge and “negatively affect” his case, as the judge had threatened to make his sentence longer and harsher, possibly even sending him to the state’s Department of Juvenile Justice system (DJJ), unless he ran a good program, and got zero write-ups.

Hormone storm

Fearful about giving staff any reason to criticize his behavior, Javier took the Estradiol, as he was instructed.

“Replacement hormones” like Estradiol are powerful and almost most immediately Javier began to feel strange and sick. According to the complaint, the effects were “physical, emotional, cognitive, and psychological.”

And then he began to grow breasts. Really, it was more of a swelling on his chest than actual boobs. But the weird boob-like swellings were visible to other kids, said attorney, Wes Ouchi, when WitnessLA spoke to him. And then, of course, the teasing began.

Javier also broke out in pimples on his face, scalp, and body.

He became depressed, and couldn’t concentrate. He was highly anxious, had a hard time controlling his thoughts. The teasing from other boys didn’t help.

Finally, after 13 doses, a desperate Javier refused the treatment, write-ups, or no write-ups and, this time, he stuck to it.

After he refused treatment, Dr. Wang and his boss Dr. David Oh, told his parents about the treatment. At least, sort of. He didn’t really explain what the treatment actually was.

So, did Javier really receive any kind of accepted treatment?

As far as attorney Ouchi has been able to determine, the answer is no.

“There is no any kind of indication that providing Estrodial to an adolescent male is any kind of accepted treatment for anything,” he said. “We think it was an experiment. And we think it’s likely not the only time they used the treatment, experimentally.”

So far, WitnessLA’s preliminary probe of the matter yields the same utter lack of studies or academic papers on the topic.

Ouchi and his firm haven’t done discovery yet, he said. So they are just at the beginning stages in probing the case more deeply. Yet, he believes there’s lots more to be uncovered, noting the curious fact that the doctors seemed to have had the drug handy when Javier was first examined when, obviously, Estrodial is not a normal drug to just keep on hand, such as Tylenol or a broad-spectrum antibiotic.

Ouchi is interested, he said, to find out if there are other teenage boys in probation’s system who were given estrogen in this potentially purely experimental manner, which he described as “potentially criminal.”

UCLA’s Dr. Jorja Leap, who was part of the planning for the POC, and one of the co-authors of the deeply researched LA County Probation Governance Report, was very disturbed by the implications of the new lawsuit.

“These troubling developments point to the need for real oversight with power to hold probation — and those from other county agencies, who work inside probation’s facilities — fully accountable when they harm those in their care,” she told us.

(You can read the full complaint right here.)

https://witnessla.com/new-lawsuit-t...9Pz1v4eRpkv39SNIoHHfPF-CZ4-A-hH93TxUw7zvMN1B4

Now that's some journalist work. That level of detail, looks like it would be straight from my imagination.

That doctor is a ****, not only for forcing the kid, but because he has no clue : when I take massive doses of testosterone I'm the most relaxed and non aggressive person on earth.
When my T is low and have slightly elevated estrogens, I'm agitated and could punch people.
 

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State enforced homosexuality is a meme until it isn't.

Welcome to the collapse of Western Civilization.

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What does homosexuality have to do with estrogen levels? Ignorance at its best.
 
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