12% DHT Gel

[Wagner83]

Yes I noticed this as well. It would be a slow conversion to DHT then as enanthate sticks around for a while I believe. Might take a week or two of supplementing to notice an effect? If it's in DMSO it should absorb into the body, whereas normally with an ester it wouldn't.

They say it's not risky because effects will be localized, however the study I linked to states it has 100 times less affinity for AR than dht itself but it converts into dht in the body somehow. So if it is dht heptanoate, as you said, it will take time to convert to dht and so the only benefits one can see would be from systemic effects and increase in dht, the opposite of what thew advertise for. As always, I don't know anything about biochemistry so carry your pinch of salt when you read my posts but from the little I see their claims make no sense.

 

[schultz]

They say it's not risky because effects will be localized, however the study I linked to states it has 100 times less affinity for AR than dht itself but it converts into dht in the body somehow. So if it is dht heptanoate, as you said, it will take time to convert to dht and so the only benefits one can see would be from systemic effects and increase in dht, the opposite of what thew advertise for. As always, I don't know anything about biochemistry so carry your pinch of salt when you read my posts but from the little I see their claims make no sense.

Yah I thought that it might not be a localized effect because of the time it takes to convert. The DHT Heptanoate (aka Enanthate) probably doesn't do anything until it has the Heptanoate part removed, just like TRT. Presumably, also like TRT, the effect would be systemic.

 

[Elron]

I wish Ray Peat gave more info. like why doesn't he like proviron?

 

[ddjd]

I'm using 2 drops twice a week. Yes, it makes things bigger, especially if youre doing manual exercises a few times a week (nothing crazy is really necessary). I'm also feeling more comfortable with getting what I want, leaner physique, and increased muscular endurance. It seems to make libido more focused, like a drive to get a woman instead of a drive to ejaculate. Lost interest in porn and don't feel rushed during sexual encounters.

Also never got any of this with 11-keto

is this using titan 12 %?

 

[ddjd]

yes I did. I usually get waves of good side effects like good concentration and very high dopamine and confidence, then I get waves of stress like very tight scalp eye twitching ect. (basically a adrenaline rush).

why is tight scalp stress related?
eye twitching is low magnesium i believe

 

[Pointless]

is this using titan 12 %?

I forget. The bottle literally has no label.

 

[dq139]

why is tight scalp stress related?
eye twitching is low magnesium i believe

I get a tight scalp when I feel jittery and stressed. I take a crap load of magnesium daily. So I don't know y my eyes twitch

 

[ddjd]

I get a tight scalp when I feel jittery and stressed. I take a crap load of magnesium daily. So I don't know y my eyes twitch

what type of mag?

 

[raypeatclips]

I forget. The bottle literally has no label.

Sounds safe.

 

[dq139]

what type of mag?

I get magnesium from my multi vitamin. I get mag from a zinc b6 & mag pill I take at night. Then some nights I take a teaspoon of pure bulk mag powder for sleep purposes

 

[dq139]

what type of mag?

I get magnesium from my multi vitamin. I get mag from a zinc b6 & mag pill I take at night. Then some nights I take a teaspoon of pure bulk mag powder for sleep purposes

 

[ddjd]

I get magnesium from my multi vitamin. I get mag from a zinc b6 & mag pill I take at night. Then some nights I take a teaspoon of pure bulk mag powder for sleep purposes

magnesium from a multi is going to do jack all.

you need high quality magnesium glycinate, like from pure encapsulation, or mag malate or mag chloride. i wouldnt even be bothering with a multi, theres probably iron and all kinds of crap in there you really dont want to be taking every day. probably beta carotene too

 

[dq139]

magnesium from a multi is going to do jack all.

you need high quality magnesium glycinate, like from pure encapsulation, or mag malate or mag chloride. i wouldnt even be bothering with a multi, theres probably iron and all kinds of crap in there you really dont want to be taking every day. probably beta carotene too

Actually its pretty clean, its garden of life multi for men. Doesn't have any iron, beta carotene or anything unnatural I can see from reading the label. But who knows

 

[ddjd]

https://www.gardenoflife.com/content/product/vitamin-code-mens-multivitamin/

this one?

first ingredient - beta carotene

 

[Pointless]

Sounds safe.

Yeah it comes in an unmarked package that says "fishing bait"

 

[alex00]

I calculated and there are 2.83-2.95 mg of dht for drop. On the site they say to put 4 drops a day but 4 x 2.9 is 11,6, but i read to keep below 5mg daily of dht because it can be suppressive.

 

[alex00]

what do you think about it? Staying on 2-3 mg daily gives you benefits? is it suppressive in the long term?
thanks

Yeah it comes in an unmarked package that says "fishing bait"

Actually its pretty clean, its garden of life multi for men. Doesn't have any iron, beta carotene or anything unnatural I can see from reading the label. But who knows

They say it's not risky because effects will be localized, however the study I linked to states it has 100 times less affinity for AR than dht itself but it converts into dht in the body somehow. So if it is dht heptanoate, as you said, it will take time to convert to dht and so the only benefits one can see would be from systemic effects and increase in dht, the opposite of what thew advertise for. As always, I don't know anything about biochemistry so carry your pinch of salt when you read my posts but from the little I see their claims make no sense.

 

[SOMO]

Pretty sure RussianStarPeptides is fake guys.

There used to be a company in Cyprus who sold DHT and it was legit (it came in the original packaging and everything). But RSP is likely all ethanol and/or DMSO.
Based on the company in Cyprus's prices and comparing them to RSP, I don't think RSP is real.


DHT cream, where? - Thunder's Place


And the reviews scream fake.

The website sells a product that claims will make you severla inches taller lol.

Clearly they're targeting small-penised, short insecure guys who want a big wang and six-pack. It's sick and cruel.

I think you should vote with your wallet and if you're buying RSP, you could get a better deal for the same stuff by rubbing vodka on your body.

 

[alex00]

Pretty sure RussianStarPeptides is fake guys.

There used to be a company in Cyprus who sold DHT and it was legit (it came in the original packaging and everything). But RSP is likely all ethanol and/or DMSO.
Based on the company in Cyprus's prices and comparing them to RSP, I don't think RSP is real.


DHT cream, where? - Thunder's Place


And the reviews scream fake.

The website sells a product that claims will make you severla inches taller lol.

Clearly they're targeting small-penised, short insecure guys who want a big wang and six-pack. It's sick and cruel.

I think you should vote with your wallet and if you're buying RSP, you could get a better deal for the same stuff by rubbing vodka on your body.

I've tried it
I am 17 years old.
The DHT 12% is not fake I tried it for 8 weeks, it increased libido, the hair growth, made the voice slightly deeper and and made the penis flaccid bigger, the problem is that since 8 weeks I noticed a slight shrinking of the balls and I stopped. After I stopped the libido was down and my sperm was lower.
I did the blood tests and LH, FSH, T and estrogen were decreased. After 2 week I recovered my libido and I’m fine but the balls haven’t grown yet and I’m thinking of making a slight PCT with Nolvadex.
I don’t know if my penis would have grown if I had continued the cycle maybe I was stupid to stop but I care to my balls.
Should I perhaps try a longer cycle at lower doses and make a PCT at the end to restore HPTA?

 

[alex00]

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