Don't Know How Much Longer I Have. Can't Take The Constant, Unrelenting, Unexplainable; Anguish

bawild

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Hmm, yes, sleep is a huge issue for me. I wake up feeling just as tired and bleak as i did before i went to sleep. Got a sleep study, that was normal. Perhaps my gerd is causing sleep issues? Funny that you mention hypothyroid. That was THE first thing my doctors tested for, due to my symptoms. My thyroid tests came back perfectly normal my diet is bad, cant really afford a varied, dense, well thought our diet. Probably to constipated to eat it either...thank you for your suggestion. Will try the potatoes
Look-up UARS (Upper Respiratory Resistance Syndrome) Highly under diagnosed. Home sleep study will be negative. Not an obese old guy problem. Shows negative for apnea but destroys your deep & REM sleep. Start here.. The Walking Dead: Sleep-Deprived Zombies Are For Real
 

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My lab results always came back normal for years. It wasn't until I accessed thyroid and took it on my own, that I started to feel better. Find a doctor who will treat by symptoms not just numbers. I spent most of my life in bed with exhaustion until I took matters in to my own hands. Yes constipation is part of this. Is your pulse slow?
 

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Sounds like severe serotonin/estrogen dominance which comes with high cortisol (which explains the mood swings and desperation) coupled with excess glutamate activity.

Maybe try CO2 (coca cola and reduced breathing), zinc, magnesium, and lots of salt. Basically tons of sedating minerals. Avoid staying up late/irregurality/any sort of excess stimulation. Also maybe try aspirin, moderate caffeine, along with eating plenty of whatever you feel tastes good, forgetting about dietary "rules" for the moment until you feel better because PUFA doesn't matter in the short-run if you feel like garbage. Daily carrot salad as well. Milk and OJ were terrible for me when I had gut issues so maybe skip those and focus on potato juice as your source of nutrition instead.
 

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Yeah vitamin D will deplete your vitamin A, K and magnesium over time. If you take one you really have to take all of them.
Got a source for this statement, or are you only referring to megadosing of Vit D? I've heard this meme repeated very often in the health bloggosphere that you need to take Vitamin K with Vitamin D, but actual Vitamin D experts like Michael Holick say its hogwash. To me it also just doesn't make intuitive sense since we can easily get a lot of Vitamin D from natural sun exposure, but getting Vitamin K or other fat solubles in amounts that approach what you get in supplements is very difficult.
 

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Family only goes so far, it's hard when people think you're making symptoms up or over exaggerating. Considering i look completely fine.

That's rough, man. If your friends can't empathize, I'd look elsewhere.

Good luck, and keep us posted.
 

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Sounds like a poor functioning thyroid / adrenal axis.

Get some blood tests and post the results.

Sleep is important, go to bed early and wake at the same time. Get into a regular cycle, not erratic. So sleep by 11pm and up at 7-8am.

check vitamin b12 and D levels as well.

Food can only do so much, you may need some hormone intervention.
 

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Got a source for this statement, or are you only referring to megadosing of Vit D? I've heard this meme repeated very often in the health bloggosphere that you need to take Vitamin K with Vitamin D, but actual Vitamin D experts like Michael Holick say its hogwash. To me it also just doesn't make intuitive sense since we can easily get a lot of Vitamin D from natural sun exposure, but getting Vitamin K or other fat solubles in amounts that approach what you get in supplements is very difficult.
I don't think its conclusive but here is a paper on it. Vitamin K deficiency symptoms are remarkably similar to vitamin D toxicity: Vitamin D toxicity redefined: vitamin K and the molecular mechanism. - PubMed - NCBI
 

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I don't think its conclusive but here is a paper on it. Vitamin K deficiency symptoms are remarkably similar to vitamin D toxicity: Vitamin D toxicity redefined: vitamin K and the molecular mechanism. - PubMed - NCBI
I think Chris Masterjohn is pretty much the sole originator of this idea. Nevertheless his current stance on how much Vitamin K2 one should get is far lower than what is recommended in most other places, he doesn't think there is much benefit to getting more than 100ug of K2 per day, which one can relatively easily get from food if you regularly eat stuff like eggs, cheese, chicken and pork. So as long as you have a nutritious diet it doesn't seem like you'd need additional K2 to balance a moderate intake of Vitamin D, say a few thousand IUs per day.
 

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Haha, man I've gotten every blood test lnown to man, along with ct, mri, thydoid test, lyme test, etc only abnormal thing that came back was low vit d (dont remember to wjat extent). My temp was usually 96.0 average when i had my worse constipation and physical issues.
Post the results. Take temps and pulse. Post them.
 
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Sounds like a poor functioning thyroid / adrenal axis.

Get some blood tests and post the results.

Sleep is important, go to bed early and wake at the same time. Get into a regular cycle, not erratic. So sleep by 11pm and up at 7-8am.

check vitamin b12 and D levels as well.

Food can only do so much, you may need some hormone intervention.
Ive gotten lots of bloods done in the past 6 months. Only thing was mentioned was a low vit d level. I don't know bybhiw much though. I started taking vit d about 3 weeks ago, it was ok at first but then i started to feel worse.
 
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LambdaAlpha

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Sounds like a poor functioning thyroid / adrenal axis.

Get some blood tests and post the results.

Sleep is important, go to bed early and wake at the same time. Get into a regular cycle, not erratic. So sleep by 11pm and up at 7-8am.

check vitamin b12 and D levels as well.

Food can only do so much, you may need some hormone intervention.
Alright I'll see what i can do
 

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True friends will not question your suffering. I went through the same thing for years. I wasn't in physical pain but felt sheer exhaustion almost every day and I would have people say "at least you don't have the pain that I suffer". As if that is any harder. I told them I'd trade for pain in a second! What is more bizarre, is that, there was not one doctor who figured it out and I went to many different ones over the years. Thankfully I found Lita Lee and in turn Ray Peat and turned my whole condition around. I am booming with energy and hardly stop from dawn til dusk and I'm now 60 years young and feel better than 20.
 
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