Aluminium And Its Likely Causative Role In Alzheimer Disease

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What about the alluminium foil and the polyethylene on UHT milk's carton packaging, is it a problem?
 

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Purely on a theoretical note...how would we know that Aluminium (or any other toxin, actually) is the root cause of the disease? They accumulate and cause damage, but why is it accumulating... a healthy person can detoxify heavy metals in general. Health is very related to how we control toxins, so it is not surprising that a toxin is involved in the late stage of a disease like Alzheimer. Of course it's good to avoid the toxin if the host is only accumulating it, but why some individuals fail to control it seems like an even more relevant question. There are many things associated with Alzheimer (heavy metals accumulation, fungi, metabolic problems,...). Replace "aluminium" with "gut endotoxin" and I bet you'll have the same association.
 

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jyb said:
post 106786 Purely on a theoretical note...how would we know that Aluminium (or any other toxin, actually) is the root cause of the disease? They accumulate and cause damage, but why is it accumulating... a healthy person can detoxify heavy metals in general. Health is very related to how we control toxins, so it is not surprising that a toxin is involved in the late stage of a disease like Alzheimer. Of course it's good to avoid the toxin if the host is only accumulating it, but why some individuals fail to control it seems like an even more relevant question. There are many things associated with Alzheimer (heavy metals accumulation, fungi, metabolic problems,...). Replace "aluminium" with "gut endotoxin" and I bet you'll have the same association.
I've read bits of the work of Andrew Cutler on heavy metal detoxification and he has quite different views than the mainstream doctors. Same with Kinglhart. Don't know what to think about these doctors (some people believe that chelation is very dangerous and depleting other minerals) and what Ray said about heavy metal detox...
 
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Have any of you tried succinic acid yet? I'm about to buy some from Amazon and curious about recommended consumption methods and dosages...
 

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What shall we do about this? Our bodies are full of aluminum.
How can we remove the accumulated aluminum? The author of the article that haidut cited recommends silicon-rich mineral water. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... inium.html
Some people say that the supplement, magnesium malate, will remove aluminum. Does anyone know if there are any good studies on this?
Anybody know of anything else?
Here's a video that says silicon rich food and water will get rid of aluminum in the body. How best to get silicon rich comestibles and potables tho, I don't know. Anyone?
 

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Dr. Christopher Exley
PhD Biologist Excitotoxicicology of Aluminum

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'Governments are complacent about the dangers of aluminum. Silicon protects against the toxicity, so for individual protection, drink a liter a day of a mineral water with a lot of soluble silicon. 3 brands of silicon-rich mineral waters – Fiji Water in US, Spritzer from Malaysia, Volvic in England.

Silicon supplements are not the same thing. Don’t dissolve to give soluble silicon. Haven’t been able to find a product to add to water and make silicic acid, the soluble form of silicon.'

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Dr. Exley as well as Dr. Romaine Gheradi (French) contend that injected aluminium is way more dangerous than ingested because it is not easily removed from the body and it tends to stay at the injection site; later migrating to the brain, as it is neurotropic.
 

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Anyone find some silicon product one can add to their water on Amazon? Or would that not have the same effect?
 

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3 brands of silicon-rich mineral waters – Fiji Water in US, Spritzer from Malaysia, Volvic in England.

Silicon supplements are not the same thing. Don’t dissolve to give soluble silicon. Haven’t been able to find a product to add to water and make silicic acid, the soluble form of silicon.'

Hi Waynish. According to Dr. Exley, he says that he hasn't found that any silicon supplements dissolve right in water. He only recommends the mineral waters above because these waters already have this naturally from the geographical region in which they are bottled.
 

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Hi Waynish. According to Dr. Exley, he says that he hasn't found that any silicon supplements dissolve right in water. He only recommends the mineral waters above because these waters already have this naturally from the geographical region in which they are bottled.

Doesn't that sound like sketchy water science? This idea that we can't get the silicon except for it's mysterious source via these bottled water companies...
 

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He has declared no commercial interest in any minerals waters on the market. He said that at this point in time per his scientific studies, he has found no silica supplements that dissolve in the water to create high enough concentations per the amount of water that one must ingest to achieve beneficial results.

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'Chris Exley has previously discussed other sources of silicon. However, he believes that it’s more biologically available when suspended in water as silicic acid:

The critical thing about silicon in drinking water is that it is immediately biologically available and will be absorbed across the gut and into the blood. All other sources of silicic acid are much worse including horsetail which is composed of silica not silicic acid.

Therefore, the best way to obtain quantities that can safely and rapidly leach aluminum from your body is through drinking silicon-rich mineral water.'
 

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He has declared no commercial interest in any minerals waters on the market. He said that at this point in time per his scientific studies, he has found no silica supplements that dissolve in the water to create high enough concentations per the amount of water that one must ingest to achieve beneficial results.

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'Chris Exley has previously discussed other sources of silicon. However, he believes that it’s more biologically available when suspended in water as silicic acid:

The critical thing about silicon in drinking water is that it is immediately biologically available and will be absorbed across the gut and into the blood. All other sources of silicic acid are much worse including horsetail which is composed of silica not silicic acid.

Therefore, the best way to obtain quantities that can safely and rapidly leach aluminum from your body is through drinking silicon-rich mineral water.'

I realize that and I'm saying that it doesn't make sense to me... For example, what is wrong with putting this into water:
Silicon Dioxide (Silica), Powder -325 mesh, 99.5+%, 100g: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Not concentrated enough? :P
 

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Dr. Exley stated that in order to achieve the same level of silica in the dry powder supplement that you would place in your drinking water, because it is not easily soluable in water (and drinking huge quanties of water is not beneficial, in my opinion), and the mineral waters have much higher concentations of silica per volume of water in ionic suspension, as these waters have been travelling long distances from mountains over streams which slowly erode minerals.

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www.freedrinkingwater.com

The type and composition of the silica-containing minerals in contact with the water and the pH of the water are the primary factors controlling both the solubility and the form of silica in the resulting solution.

The solid crust of the earth contains 80% to 90% silicates or other compounds of silicon. Water passing through or over the earth dissolves silica from sands, rocks and minerals as one of the impurities it collects. The silica content in natural waters is commonly in the 5 to 25 mg/L range, although concentrations over 100mg/L occur in some areas.

OVER 100MG/L IS VERY HIGH, AND NOT IN MANY WATERS!

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IMHO, with the evidence in front of me, I don't see much benefit to placing silica powder in water, with the expectation that it would have the same levels as those pricey mineral waters.

The only way that anyone could verify the level of silica supplements dissolved in their own drinking water would be proven by having their water tested along with the pricey mineral water to get real concrete scientic evidence for proof.
 

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The only way that anyone could verify the level of silica supplements dissolved in their own drinking water would be proven by having their water tested along with the pricey mineral water to get real concrete scientic evidence for proof.

That evidence doesn't seem far off and I don't see why it wouldn't work...
 

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