Nitric Oxide And Morning Wood

[Dizzryda]

Enough Niacinamide can solve all your wood problems

Tarmander, you have found this to be true? If so how much is enough niacinamide?

What I have noticed after intentionally depleting NO through l-lysine supplementation is that, sorry to be rude, my erections are definitely not as strong plus my muscles dont get pumped as good when weight training and tha tmy overall vascularity is down a bit. However, overall I feel very relaxed and peleasant and I am mentally much more interested in sex and pursuing partners. So there you go, it's a give and take but I think lower NO is definitely worth it. Perhaps increasing CO2 with bag breathing would account for the diminished vascularity?? Soemthing to try next....

Sladerunner69, it seems that methylene blue has the exact same effect in me that you describe with l-lysine. To me it is not worth it. Buteyko breathing seems to help with erections so increased bag breathing should help.

 

[Tarmander]

Tarmander, you have found this to be true? If so how much is enough niacinamide?

You can find dosages around the forums. Start with say 500mg? 200mg? Work your way up, but not over 2-3g or so

 

[paymanz]

low dose naltrexon can improve MW.at least in my experience.
i think also balance of serotonin and dopamine is important.

 

[Area-1255]

What I have noticed after intentionally depleting NO through l-lysine supplementation is that, sorry to be rude, my erections are definitely not as strong plus my muscles dont get pumped as good when weight training and tha tmy overall vascularity is down a bit. However, overall I feel very relaxed and peleasant and I am mentally much more interested in sex and pursuing partners. So there you go, it's a give and take but I think lower NO is definitely worth it. Perhaps increasing CO2 with bag breathing would account for the diminished vascularity?? Soemthing to try next....

I doubt nitric oxide inhibition accounts for the majority of Lysine's anxiolytic effects; it's more than likely serotonin 5-HT4 antagonism.
Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2003 Dec 23;100(26):15370-5. Epub 2003 Dec 15.
L-Lysine acts like a partial serotonin receptor 4 antagonist and inhibits serotonin-mediated intestinal pathologies and anxiety in rats.
Smriga M1, Torii K.
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Abstract
The purpose of this investigation was to determine whether a nutritionally essential amino acid, l-lysine, acts like a serotonin receptor 4 (5-HT4) antagonist, and if l-lysine is beneficial in animal models of serotonin (5-HT)-induced anxiety, diarrhea, ileum contractions, and tachycardia and in stress-induced fecal excretion. The radioligand-binding assay was used to test the binding of l-lysine to various 5-HT receptors. The effects of l-lysine on 5-HT-induced contractions of isolated guinea pig ileum were studied in vitro. The effects of oral administration of l-lysine on diarrhea, stress-induced fecal excretion, and 5-HT-induced corticosterone release, tachycardia, and anxiety (an elevated plus maze paradigm) were studied in rats in vivo. l-Lysine (0.8 mmol/dl) inhibited (9.17%) binding of 5-HT to the 5-HT4 receptor, without any effect on 5-HT1A,2A,2B,2C,3 binding. l-Lysine (0.07 and 0.7 mmol/dl) blocked 5-HT-induced contractions of an isolated guinea pig ileum in vitro (P < 0.05 and P < 0.01). Orally applied l-lysine (1 g/kg of body weight) inhibited (P < 0.12) diarrhea triggered by coadministration of restraint stress and 5-hydroxytryptophane (10 mg/kg of body weight), and significantly blocked anxiety induced by the 5-HT4 receptor agonist (3.0 mmol/liter) in rats in vivo. No effects of l-lysine or the 5-HT4 receptor agonist on plasma corticosterone and heart rate were recorded. l-Lysine may be a partial 5-HT4 receptor antagonist and suppresses 5-HT4 receptor-mediated intestinal pathologies and anxiety in rats. An increase in nutritional load of l-lysine might be a useful tool in treating stress-induced anxiety and 5-HT-related diarrhea-type intestinal dysfunctions.

Comment in

• Lysine as a serotonin receptor antagonist: using the diet to modulate gut function. [Gastroenterology. 2004]

 

[Zoidzilla]

it seems morning erections are related to a very low part of the brain or even the spinal chord. It seems quite normal for men to have erections on and off during their sleep and is in fact related to both health AND sexual sensitivity. For men who have lost sensitivity due to porn or poor masturbation habits, they will often lose morning erections.

Complete nonsense. Excercising normal bodily functions ( ejaculation ) does not lead to a loss of sex drive or sexual function, more pseudoscientific anti-sex rubbish.

 

[natedawggh]

it seems morning erections are related to a very low part of the brain or even the spinal chord. It seems quite normal for men to have erections on and off during their sleep and is in fact related to both health AND sexual sensitivity. For men who have lost sensitivity due to porn or poor masturbation habits, they will often lose morning erections.

I watch porn often, masturbate once or twice a day or have sex with an actual partner two to four times a week and continue to have massive morning wood after suffering erectile dysfunction for years. It has nothing to do with porn or masturbation. It's nutritional and hormonal...although if you can only get off to porn it's not porn, it's the comfort of your accustomed grip! Try masturbating to porn with a different hand in a different position and it will be just as hard for you to orgasm as it is with a person...but doing that will release your mind from the expectation of that repetition and suddenly you'll enjoy other activities with it (assuming there aren't other physiological health issues)

 

[natedawggh]

I've read in several places that strong morning erection is a sign of good health and sex drive. However, I'm curious about the mechanism involved, and after thinking about nitric oxide recently, I began to wonder if that's the major player involved. From what Peat says, nitric oxide is like a backup for CO2, when CO2 production or retention is insufficient. Since metabolism falls during sleep, it would make sense that CO2 would drop, nitric oxide would increase, and this might be a primary factor in morning erection.

After doing some googling, many places mention nitric oxide in relation to morning erection, but it seems the mechanism for morning nitric oxide release is not fully understood, and I can't find anything tying it to reduced CO2. If morning erection is related to decreased CO2 and increased NO, wouldn't it be a sign of poorer health and metabolism, not better health?

Yes NO boners are a backup for CO2 boners. Have you ever noticed reduced breathing during sex?? This is only possible by the elevation of CO2, and in healthy individuals CO2 is highest during sleep, hence the erection in the morning (or not if experiencing I'll health) In the early years of my decline I started taking pills for erections, which obviously work by increasing NO production. But those caused major side effects like puffiness and faster greying of my hair. Eventually those too lost their effect and even with help I would lose an erection early and be unable to maintain it. Now that my health has improved I require no erectile aids, and unlike NO boners mine now last as long as I want.

Complete nonsense. Excercising normal bodily functions ( ejaculation ) does not lead to a loss of sex drive or sexual function, more pseudoscientific anti-sex rubbish.

AGREED

 

[BibleBeliever]

So Nitric Oxide is non-ideal? I recently learned that HGH is considered aging, which goes against everything I learned, but NO too?

The bodybuilders love NO and tout everything to increase it, to look more ripped. Endless commentary about its necessity for sex performance. Viagra's whole basis is to increase nitric oxide, so a superior format would be to increase CO2?

Nitric Oxide: 20 Ways to Boost NO Levels Naturally

I remember this article saying Uric Acid (which Peat says is beneficial) inhibits the bio-availability of nitric oxide:
High plasma uric acid concentration: causes and consequences

So the basic notion is elevated NO levels are a sign of body inefficiency, because CO2 is superior? I tried to find foods that increase CO2, but couldn't; are you aware of any?

 

[Dan010101]

It definitely happens the morning after alcohol, strongest morning wood ever. I've heard theories about testosterone rebound, following the test drop caused by alcohol the previous night. Not sure though.


Agreed. Check this out:
The impact of sleep deprivation on erotic erections. - PubMed - NCBI
Quote: "sleep deprivation induced an increase in penile tumescence (morning wood) and rigidity"

So lack of sleep can contribute to morning wood. Not sleeping is obviously stressful/anti-metabolic.

I found something interesting, I used to stay up all night and the next day I'd have REALLY good wood, spontaneous erections galore. I tried this a couple times and it happened everytime, I also felt horny. I barely get that when I've had sleep/normal. This might be why?

 

[ddjd]

Enough Niacinamide can solve all your wood problems

And that opposes NO, no?

 

[olowshinenine]

Hmm. I'm not sure it's as simple as that. I also notice increased libido after a night of drinking. Being a gaba agonist, the ensuing glutamatergic onslaught that follows a heavy drinking session (the neurotoxicity) would possibly contribute to increased interest in sex. Crystal Meth will also raise your interest in sex, but will fry your brain cells at the same time.

Peat has also said that increased estrogen can ramp up testosterone (as your body's way of comensating), so that might also explain any pro-libido effects.

My take on morning wood is that it might mean something. But who knows what it means. Way too many factors that come into play. My experience with DHEA has made me rethink my stance on libido. I have high libido, but when I take DHEA, I feel calm, peaceful, balanced and normal. However, no libido at all. Therefore, I think libido can often be created from a stressed state, and isn't necessarily indicative of thriving health, as everyone always says. I suppose having high libido is a high energy state, and potentially very taxing on an organism.

I would like to second this. I use to be a heavy drinker and had the strongest libido and erections after a night of drinking. Sometimes I would need to masturbate 5 times the next day. This is also before I got married.

Now that I am married my libido is gone I don't drink anymore my t levels are under 250. ( granted I don't know what they were before marriage because I never tested, I never had a problem. )