General Orange
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I think it's silly to think such relative small quantity of "vitamins" can have such big action radius for it to have considerable de-calcifying effect on tissue all over the body.
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I take 30,000 iu Vit D and 2.5 mg of K2.I think it's silly to think such relative small quantity of "vitamins" can have such big action radius for it to have considerable de-calcifying effect on tissue all over the body.
Because it is lacking a systemic approach. It will be insufficient method to succeed.I take 30,000 iu Vit D and 2.5 mg of K2.
Also these are the direct vitamins that determine calcium use in the body.
Why don't you try it?
Vit D increases the calcium levels, which opposes parathyroidTo support arterial de-calcification you need to concentrate on the following:
- inhibit excessive release of norepinephrine and epinephrine (adrenalin)
- increase androgens
- induce eNOS but inhibit iNOS
- increase IGF-1 and IGFBP-3
- increase Calcium intake to overcome calcium paradox
I over supplemented with vitamin d3, vitamin a and calcium citrate (did not know any better. in hindsight, not a smart idea)
I stopped because I was feeling incredibly shitty. After I stopped, I had strange muscle spasms and twitches etc. on and off for a period of months. I tried magnesium oil spray and noticed a huge difference immediately. this indicated that I was magnesium deficient. not only that, but my muscles went from stiff to more fluid. I concluded that calcium had locked into my soft tissues
I looked up some stuff online and have added vitamin k2 (natto daily, tons of grass fed meats), magnesium oil (twice a day 20 sprays), and apple cider vinegar (16 tablespoons, thats a lot) to my daily routine. I also take a small 1k iu d3 and 100mcg k2 mk7 tablet in the morning
Does anyone have any suggestion on how to speed up recovery from arterial calcification? So far what I have been doing has been working. I have been adding in mk4 daily as well but it makes me really tired and dizzy for some reason. Any other ideas?
That's seems like a nice vitamin theory an sich. But are not vitamins mostly co-factors in processes? What is the large cycle that makes the vitamins work in the first place? Consider that.Vit D increases the calcium levels, which opposes parathyroid
Vit K transports the blood calcium or hurtful calcium deposits back into the bone
VIt D and K both lower estrogen and increase testoterone
Can't say for your other points (also add magnesium)
That sounds exactly how you get it. Without K the calcium doesnt go into the bones but in the wrong places like the arteries.@topdog82 Were is your evidence you really have soft tissue calcification as you claim?
You cannot possibly get arterial calcification with over supplementing D3, A and some calcium. You have misdiagnosed your condition.
Without empirical evidence, there is only speculation. You have no idea how the deeper molecular biology works.That sounds exactly how you get it. Without K the calcium doesnt go into the bones but in the wrong places like the arteries.
General Orange
I'm pretty sure I've seen studies that supplementing calcium or D without K caused calcification, I don't feel like looking for itWithout empirical evidence, there is only speculation. You have no idea how the deeper molecular biology works.
[edit] we have also no idea what his diet was. So much factors unknown. and then relying on someones self diagnosis is just silly.
"Hypervitaminosis A, or vitamin A toxicity, occurs when you have too much vitamin A in your body.I over supplemented with vitamin d3, vitamin a and calcium citrate (did not know any better. in hindsight, not a smart idea)
I stopped because I was feeling incredibly shitty. After I stopped, I had strange muscle spasms and twitches etc. on and off for a period of months. ...
I’ve never heard of people reversing atherosclerosis after any amount of time with just a healthy diet
Would that reverse the already present calcification thoEver hear of anyone changing the way they live enough to significantly reverse the metabolic syndrome and dyslipidemia that typically accompanies atherosclerosis?
Would that reverse the already present calcification tho
proteolytic enzymes ? how?aspirin, K2 MK4 and proteolytic enzymes I think can help reverse calcification.
proteolytic enzymes ? how?
Blomelein and papain will break down collagen from tissue when it gets in contact with it, like tongue or gut. I dont think that helps.calcification takes place on a collagen matrix, is my understanding. Use serrapeptase, nattokinase, bromelein, papain, orally. They can dissolve the collagen matrix and free up the tissue from the calcified fibrosis.
You’re saying they don’t work systemically?Blomelein and papain will break down collagen from tissue when it gets in contact with it, like tongue or gut. I dont think that helps.