Global Warming Scam - "The Debate's Over Folks."

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From Karl Denninger:

Climate Alarmist Profiteers: Go To Prison

The debate's over folks.

Back when the "climate researcher" folks had their lab hacked into and their data set and source code stolen I wrote an article on what was in there -- including obvious adjustments in the FORTRAN code that were one way.

Post that incident there was a "convenient" loss of original data -- which made re-examination on an objective basis of much of the so-called "work" impossible.

Unfortunately for the screamers, they didn't get all of the data sets. There were plenty of them left, and eventually some folks took to actual mathematical analysis of them.

You can read their conclusions here -- but let me just quote a bit of it.

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.

In other words, and to expand:

1. No, it has not been the "warmest ever."

2. There were more severe "heat wave" incidents in the 1930s, in point of fact, there was a cold period in the 1960s and 70s (which some of us who are old enough remember!) and today's anomalies are approximately equal to that of the early 1990s.

3. These facts including both the hot and cool periods earlier in the 19xx years, fit not only across the United States but globally in the Northern Hemisphere.

It is therefore quite-clear that the data has been intentionally tampered with.

Since this has formed the basis for plans to steal literal trillions of dollars and has already resulted in the forced extraction of hundreds of billions in aggregate for motorists and industry this quite-clearly constitutes the largest economic fraud ever perpetrated in the world.

I call for the indictment and prosecution of every person and organization involved, asset-stripping all of them to their literal underwear.

For starters.
 

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Cool paper. I always wondered a bit about global warming, there are people I respect who give it credit. However I also saw some warning signs, like the fact that global warming gave a lot of very nihilistic and deeply unhappy people the Armageddon fantasy they were hoping for. There are people out there who are going to be very sad when they realize they are going to have to live out their lives completely, consequences and all.

Also, whenever you get "yada yada yada...therefore more govt spending and govt debt," you gotta have the deepest skepticism.
 

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People have gotten too emotional about global warming, your average liberal sees being "right"about global warming as one of their strong points so you can't jut take that away without a fight.
 
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Cool paper. I always wondered a bit about global warming, there are people I respect who give it credit. However I also saw some warning signs, like the fact that global warming gave a lot of very nihilistic and deeply unhappy people the Armageddon fantasy they were hoping for. There are people out there who are going to be very sad when they realize they are going to have to live out their lives completely, consequences and all.

Says who? We live in interesting times.

Interesting @charlie. What a debated issue. I wonder if we are heading towards a mini ice age.

It's what's heading towards us that you should be worried about.
 

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People have gotten too emotional about global warming, your average liberal sees being "right"about global warming as one of their strong points so you can't jut take that away without a fight.
So true. Even in the slim chance that you can convince them its all BS, the mainstream media will just re-hypnotize them with their next dosing of apocalyptic fear porn.
It's what's heading towards us that you should be worried about.
Speaking of fear porn..I'll bite.. what's heading towards us?
 

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Cool paper. I always wondered a bit about global warming, there are people I respect who give it credit. However I also saw some warning signs, like the fact that global warming gave a lot of very nihilistic and deeply unhappy people the Armageddon fantasy they were hoping for. There are people out there who are going to be very sad when they realize they are going to have to live out their lives completely, consequences and all.

And I had just sold off my beachfront property and bought a cave in the boondocks. Now, I won't live to see myself saving the lowlanders. Did I tell you about my ark?
 

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Loosen up a bit. I mean you have to admit conservatives are an easy group to make fun of.
Heaven forbid, I just hope Kim doesn't take Trump too seriously!
 
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Like Peat says, CO2 is not a pollutant.

"Ok maybe it's not a pollutant but if we put too much of it into the atmosphere then it gets warmer.."-disgusitng person who wants to control everything you do aka leftists.

Maybe. But it really doesn't matter because even if that were true and the US somehow went 100% emission free, you're not going to convince all of the other billions of people in other countries to do the same. Good luck convincing China and India and the other countries that are in the top 20 most populated list to drastically change their industries. Never happen. And why should I care to "save the planet" anyway? For what? For a bunch of idiots, spoiled brats and people who hate me because of my ethnicicty, gender, and nationality? (most of the world) Me and the only few people I care about won't be around. And even if it was somehow "saved" people will still be the same because people are people. There will never be a utopia. That is what the left doesn't understand. They don't understand human nature. Everybody does not desire the same things. I hope it does end before enough people breed for the world to become one big giant steaming ball of Sharia. But there will be a war because they're not gonna be able to convince the Chinese and Russians to convert so I don't really wanna be around for that either.
 
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Like Peat says, CO2 is not a pollutant.

"Ok but if we put too much of it into the atmosphere then it gets warmer.."-disgusitng person who wants to control everything you do aka leftists.

Some people just care about their future selves, their children or their grandchildren.

Maybe. But it really doesn't matter because even if that were true and the US somehow went 100% emission free, you're not going to convince all of the other billions of people in other countries to do the same. Good luck convincing China and India and the other countries that are in the top 20 most populated list to drastically change their industries. Never happen. And why should I care to "save the planet" anyway? For what? For a bunch of idiots, spoiled brats and people who hate me because of my ethnicicty, gender, and nationality? (most of the world) Me and the only few people I care about won't be around. And even if it was somehow "saved" people will still be the same because people are people. There will never be a utopia. That is what the left doesn't understand. They don't understand human nature. Everybody does not desire the same things. I hope it does end before enough people breed for the world to become one big giant steaming ball of Sharia law. But there will be a war because they're not gonna be able to convince the Chinese and Russians to convert so I don't really wanna be around for that either.

There are some things that everyone desires. The left overestimates these at times but is still often correct often when it comes to existential threats (the right tend to completely ignore these). And countries will change their industries if the consequences are dire enough. And if they still don't care, they'll usually be pressured by the threat of sanctions or war. And the United States will have a substantial advantage in a war of drones vs. humans.
 
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Some people just care about their future selves, their children or their grandchildren.



There are some things that everyone desires. The left overestimates these at times but is still often correct often when it comes to existential threats (the right tend to completely ignore these). And countries will change their industries if the consequences are dire enough. And if they still don't care, they'll usually be pressured by the threat of sanctions or war. And the United States will have a substantial advantage in a war of drones vs. humans.

 

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From Karl Denninger:

Climate Alarmist Profiteers: Go To Prison

The debate's over folks.

...

I call for the indictment and prosecution of every person and organization involved, asset-stripping all of them to their literal underwear.

Easy there Karl.

FACT CHECK: Peer-Reviewed Study Proves All Recent Global Warming Fabricated by Climatologists?
Conservatives are again denying the very existence of global warming | Dana Nuccitelli

This is bunk science. It is not a peer reviewed study and the claims it makes demonstrates either a lack of understanding of context or intentional/unintentional deception. Given all the authors profit in one way or another from pushing the global warming denier angle, there is very likely some sort of deception going on.

If you guys want to make legitimate arguments against something 95+% of scientists in the field agree on, please stick to evidence of the strength that wouldn't be laughed out of here if the claim was made against sugar.
 

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If the US was serious about global warming/climate change they would start heavily fining/taxing the Peruvian, Brazilian, Ecuadorian governments over de forestation and send troops down to The Amazon Jungle and fire missiles at illegal loggers.
 

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