Can Someone Please Try To Help Me With My Situation?

[nostalgic]

This will be my last thread if I don't get any help. I'll start from scratch for people unfamiliar with my condition.

Late in July this year I got serotonin syndrome from Lexapro, which has resulted in me being extremely sensitive to tryptophan - I can tolerate the amount in about 150g jasmine rice + 200g butter each day, and that's it. If I don't eat for a day, or even longer, I can eat a lot more tryptophan. Then about 2 months back I started to react to histamine in very small doses, which lead me to barely ate anything for 1-2 weeks (I basically gave up on life). That resulted in me getting deficient in serotonin and able to ingest a lot of tryptophan for a few days before I started getting serotonin toxicity symptoms again. The reason I started eating again was cause my family forced me to go to the hospital and I was forced to stay for a couple of days. The doctors didn't believe my theory of being oversensitive to tryptophan, especially not in a dose that low. It didn't take long when I got home before I started getting symptoms of my serotonin toxicity again - muscle twitches, tingling etc. Since then I've tried to stay alive the best way I could but I recently got protein deficient and had to make some changes.

Cause I can't tolerate tryptophan, I decided to give amino acids a chance. Unfortunately they have exaggerated my histamine symptoms and I fear that I have to stop taking them soon. I'm waiting for an order for a very pure product but I still expect it to give me histamine issues.

I'm buying a pressure cooker tomorrow and making Low Histamine Bone Broth - Delicate Belly
which should give me some proteins but it don't expect it to be enough to live off of, unless I intend to spend all day long cooking and costing a fortune. I mean, how much protein can it yield?

I'm running out of options. Tomorrow I'm also meeting with an allergy specialist, and I'll demand to try Cromolyn on me, and if that doesn't work I'll demand Xolair.

I've tried to find ways to lower serotonin but everything I've read about only temporarily blocks the effect. Would Fenclonine work? I have no idea to get ahold of it though.

 

[theLaw]

Cause I can't tolerate tryptophan, I decided to give amino acids a chance. Unfortunately they have exaggerated my histamine symptoms and I fear that I have to stop taking them soon. I'm waiting for an order for a very pure product but I still expect it to give me histamine issues.

This sounds like a gut-bacteria issue. I don't remember reading of anyone else having serious issues with high-quality BCAAs, and definitively not with RPPPS.

Easy test: 4T of Activated Charcoal in 12 ounces fruit juice. You might need to try this a few days in a row.

Also, keep in mind that you have made the decision to seek Professional Medical Treatments which will probably not align with the info on this forum. This is an unfortunate byproduct of our toxic Healthcare System, but a reality nonetheless.

Ultimately you'll need to choose between investing more time in personal experimentation and research, or farming it out to a Healthcare Professional. Doing both will only increase your confusion and frustration.

Best of luck!

 

[nostalgic]

This sounds like a gut-bacteria issue. I don't remember reading of anyone else having serious issues with high-quality BCAAs, and definitively not with RPPPS.

Easy test: 4T of Activated Charcoal in 12 ounces fruit juice. You might need to try this a few days in a row.

Also, keep in mind that you have made the decision to seek Professional Medical Treatments which will probably not align with the info on this forum. This is an unfortunate byproduct of our toxic Healthcare System, but a reality nonetheless.

Ultimately you'll need to choose between investing more time in personal experimentation and research, or farming it out to a Healthcare Professional. Doing both will only increase your confusion and frustration.

Best of luck!

Thanks for replying. I've been suffering from IBS since 2012 so maybe it could have something to do with this. The only Activated Charcoal I could find nearby are like small hockey pucks and contain a bunch of additives:

Sucrose
Lactose monohydrate
Magnesium stearate
Carmellose

Will it matter? Or does it have to be pure? Each puck contains 250 mg Activated Charcoal, so how many if so? How many times per day?

From what I've read online I could potentially have hypothyroidism even though the test results come back negative. I have the symptoms but these are true for a lot of diseases. Should I experiment with T3 and T4?

This forum has helped me far more than the useless "professionals".

 

[EIRE24]

This sounds like a gut-bacteria issue. I don't remember reading of anyone else having serious issues with high-quality BCAAs, and definitively not with RPPPS.

Easy test: 4T of Activated Charcoal in 12 ounces fruit juice. You might need to try this a few days in a row.

Also, keep in mind that you have made the decision to seek Professional Medical Treatments which will probably not align with the info on this forum. This is an unfortunate byproduct of our toxic Healthcare System, but a reality nonetheless.

Ultimately you'll need to choose between investing more time in personal experimentation and research, or farming it out to a Healthcare Professional. Doing both will only increase your confusion and frustration.

Best of luck!

Activated charcoal has always always constipated me and made things worse. Does the fruit juice insure that the activated charcoal doesn't cause constipation?

 

[theLaw]

Thanks for replying. I've been suffering from IBS since 2012 so maybe it could have something to do with this. The only Activated Charcoal I could find nearby are like small hockey pucks and contain a bunch of additives:

Sucrose
Lactose monohydrate
Magnesium stearate
Carmellose

Will it matter? Or does it have to be pure? Each puck contains 250 mg Activated Charcoal, so how many if so? How many times per day?

From what I've read online I could potentially have hypothyroidism even though the test results come back negative. I have the symptoms but these are true for a lot of diseases. Should I experiment with T3 and T4?

Something like this( just charcoal - no additives):

https://www.amazon.com/Food-Grade-A...511383657&sr=8-11&keywords=activated+charcoal

You'll need around 50G (3-4T) to clean out the gut. That would be 200 capsules, hence why the powder is really the only practical way to go.

As for T3/T4, I would check out the different Thyroid product threads on here from Idealabs. They'll give you a good idea of what to expect, and if you really need it.

 

[theLaw]

Activated charcoal has always always constipated me and made things worse. Does the fruit juice insure that the activated charcoal doesn't cause constipation?

When I minimized gut irritants, then ac was no problem, but it can slow down digestion to a crawl especially if you have thyroid issues.

Even when I had bad reactions early on, it was followed by better health over the next few days.

Haidut has also suggested taking it with MCT/Coconut oil to clean out the gut, so you might try that. That mixture seems like the easiest on the digestive system.

 

[nostalgic]

Something like this( just charcoal - no additives):

https://www.amazon.com/Food-Grade-A...511383657&sr=8-11&keywords=activated+charcoal

You'll need around 50G (3-4T) to clean out the gut. That would be 200 capsules, hence why the powder is really the only practical way to go.

As for T3/T4, I would check out the different Thyroid product threads on here from Idealabs. They'll give you a good idea of what to expect, and if you really need it.

50g each day? And for a few days? Is it okay to take with water?

 

[theLaw]

50g each day? And for a few days? Is it okay to take with water?

Try every other day, and start with only 1T and see how you feel. Then work your way up as you see fit.

I use the fruit juice as the ac can lower blood sugar..........also tastes good.

 

[jitsmonkey]

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Try every other day, and start with only 1T and see how you feel. Then work your way up as you see fit.

I use the fruit juice as the ac can lower blood sugar..........also tastes good.

Are you recommending the larger granules or the powder sized AC?
for what its worth this is solid advice for someone with chronic gi issues as described
thx

 

[jitsmonkey]

Activated charcoal has always always constipated me and made things worse. Does the fruit juice insure that the activated charcoal doesn't cause constipation?

I have found that AC only constipates me if I don't have enough liquid with it.
If I take it as @theLaw described its a non issue

 

[theLaw]

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Are you recommending the larger granules or the powder sized AC?
for what its worth this is solid advice for someone with chronic gi issues as described
thx

I've only used the powdered ac, and I assume the smaller particles would be better for sweeping the gut.

 

[nostalgic]

When I minimized gut irritants, then ac was no problem, but it can slow down digestion to a crawl especially if you have thyroid issues.

Even when I had bad reactions early on, it was followed by better health over the next few days.

Haidut has also suggested taking it with MCT/Coconut oil to clean out the gut, so you might try that. That mixture seems like the easiest on the digestive system.

Been trying to find the dosage of coconut oil + ac but didn't find anything. Any ideas? Will the coconut oil prevent constipation?

Also, it's not a good idea to use ac made for the kitchen fan, right?

 

[theLaw]

Been trying to find the dosage of coconut oil + ac but didn't find anything. Any ideas? Will the coconut oil prevent constipation?

Coconut oil = 1t - 1T max. Not sure about the constipation, but I assume it will slow transit time regardless, so perhaps best to take between meals or before bed.

 

[EIRE24]

When I minimized gut irritants, then ac was no problem, but it can slow down digestion to a crawl especially if you have thyroid issues.

Even when I had bad reactions early on, it was followed by better health over the next few days.

Haidut has also suggested taking it with MCT/Coconut oil to clean out the gut, so you might try that. That mixture seems like the easiest on the digestive system.

Thank you. Makes sense if digestion was already slow activated charcoal could make it worse.

 

[nostalgic]

Coconut oil = 1t - 1T max. Not sure about the constipation, but I assume it will slow transit time regardless, so perhaps best to take between meals or before bed.

Ok, so the amount of ac stays the same? That's what I couldn't find.

Do you think it's okay to use kitchen fan ac? Else I'll have to order it abroad and that'll take forever to arrive.

 

[EIRE24]

Something like this( just charcoal - no additives):

https://www.amazon.com/Food-Grade-A...511383657&sr=8-11&keywords=activated+charcoal

You'll need around 50G (3-4T) to clean out the gut. That would be 200 capsules, hence why the powder is really the only practical way to go.

As for T3/T4, I would check out the different Thyroid product threads on here from Idealabs. They'll give you a good idea of what to expect, and if you really need it.

Wow 50 grams I've never taken that much. That would clear everything out?

 

[theLaw]

Ok, so the amount of ac stays the same? That's what I couldn't find.

Do you think it's okay to use kitchen fan ac? Else I'll have to order it abroad and that'll take forever to arrive.

Not sure what "kitchen fan ac" is, but I wouldn't use anything that's not pure ac.

 

[nostalgic]

Not sure what "kitchen fan ac" is, but I wouldn't use anything that's not pure ac.

Alright, thanks.

 

[theLaw]

Wow 50 grams I've never taken that much. That would clear everything out?

Yes. Can't find the link, but it's been discussed here before with citations.

You'll see when it comes out the other end...........it basically catches everything.

 

[johnsmith]

@theLaw I normally take 6-10 capsules, once a week or two. I think Haidut said he does something like this. I've never tried such large doses as you recommend, but I will.

Does this ever worry you? (from toxinless.com)...
"Fine powders vs granular charcoal
I think fine powders are more active due to their increased surface area. However, Ray Peat has pointed out that fine powders may have persorption, (absorption into blood/lymph) issues. That makes me suggest using a granular form if you're going to use it long term, with the fine powders reserved for acute issues."