How Many Times To Masturbate A Week

[Luckytype]

I think once in a while if its distractingly difficult is likely ok. Its primal and if you look in nature which doesnt have actual pornography animals do it sometimes too. I think observing healthy habits have to be there though.

As a data point, with the exception of my early twenties, my sex drive and desire was incredibly high when I was stressed, then as it recovered higher when my E/T ratio was disrupted and my total E burden was high. Since then it has recovered more, T up considerably more nearing youth levels, E slowly falling. Again though, just a data point for those considering "sex drive" as a be-all health indicator. Its not. As previously mentioned in thread its an evolutionary foundation

 

[ecstatichamster]

That’s a great site. I really enjoyed this article in particular.
The Monogamy Challenge | Reuniting

Yes indeed. And the Karrezza Korner is very good.

 

[ecstatichamster]

I think once in a while if its distractingly difficult is likely ok. Its primal and if you look in nature which doesnt have actual pornography animals do it sometimes too. I think observing healthy habits have to be there though.

As a data point, with the exception of my early twenties, my sex drive and desire was incredibly high when I was stressed, then as it recovered higher when my E/T ratio was disrupted and my total E burden was high. Since then it has recovered more, T up considerably more nearing youth levels, E slowly falling. Again though, just a data point for those considering "sex drive" as a be-all health indicator. Its not. As previously mentioned in thread its an evolutionary foundation

I have a very high sex drive even though I’m not in my 30s. It helps to avoid sexual triggers. I avoid looking at sex scenes in movies and TV shows, for instance.

I don’t dwell on a young bikini clad woman’s body for very long. I avoid all fantasy.

That’s what also maintains my focus not just in partner sex and in my partner, but on my work. It is good for everything. My testosterone is around 900.

 

[Blossom]

Yes indeed. And the Karrezza Korner is very good.

Thanks so much hamster. Hopefully I can get husband to read a few articles too.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Thanks so much hamster. Hopefully I can get husband to read a few articles too.

I first read about this from an Osteopath Stanley Bass who is in his 90s
Energy-Karezza sex by Dr. Stanley S. Bass - How to make husbands & wives wild about each other

I think the free Reuniting.info website is far better than his books, or most books.

But I found Diane Richardson’s books very helpful. I read all of them. This is good:
https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Tantric-Sex-Unique-Fulfillment-ebook/dp/B004GXB03I

Her interviews are good. Here’s one I haven’t completely listened to but it seems really good:

 

[kyle]

A man has as many masters as he has vices.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Just adding that Dr. Stanley Bass is apparently over 100 now and he is still in great shape.

Maybe it was all that Karrezza sex. I don’t doubt it

Super nutrition and superior health -- Natural Hygiene theory - drug-free healing

He’s one of those natural hygiene guys.

 

[DaveFoster]

Masturbation keeps your circumstances comfortable...is that what you have thought about and desire for your life?

Otherwise your masculine drive is what gives you dynamism and movement. Don't putter it away in the toilet.

You have an interesting way of articulating this. The question becomes, "Is a potential improvement in life quality worth the hassle?" Absolutely not. The marginal gain in satisfaction does not outweigh a constant feeling of agitation. Temporary abstinence precedes orgy, often, and only a degenerate priest class practices celibacy.

 

[kyle]

That agitation is a learned habit. I could express the process in biological terms but I'm sure you already know what they are.

 

[lampofred]

You have an interesting way of articulating this. The question becomes, "Is a potential improvement in life quality worth the hassle?" Absolutely not. The marginal gain in satisfaction does not outweigh a constant feeling of agitation. Temporary abstinence precedes orgy, often, and only a degenerate priest class practices celibacy.

This is just a hypothesis, not saying it definitely applies to your situation, but: I've heard of observations with monkeys where it was noticed that they only masturbate if they are trapped in captivity. The implication to me is that masturbation acts like a tranquilizer. If it is impossibly hard to not masturbate without getting agitated to a degree that you are nonfunctional, then maybe your life situation, diet, and surroundings are not appropriate for you, and you are using masturbation as a coping tool for chronic stress/learned helplessness/feeling trapped?

 

[lampofred]

I admit it takes willpower to stick to this, but I agree with the people who are saying frequency of masturbation should be 0. In fact, I'd take it as far as saying even sex should be minimized if you are trying to recover from health problems. I think sex is probably only appropriate when you are overflowing with energy and have excess metabolic resources to spare, not if you are having to tinker with diet, thyroid supplementation, etc.

 

[Beefcake]

I have a GF and masturbate basically daily. If I masturbate to porn I’m not as aroused with my GF. It 100% effects you to some degree. People are different some can masturbate and still have sex. Some cant at all. You have to figure out whats best for you. I love my girlfriend. When we met we had sex 3 times a day for like 6 months. My balls hurting. Now it’s like 2-3 times a week. Even if you love someones personally as a male and love that person and how she looks you eventually get feed up a little bit. At least thats what happens to me to a certain degree it’s horrible to say but at least i admit and im aware of it. I think thats just how men are programmed. We are not ment to have sex with one woman rest of our lives but thats most suitable in our society. Porn actually helps me be faithful to my girlfriend because otherwise I think mother nature might would had gotten the best of me eventually. I dunno it’s an interesting subject but I think porn can some times help men in their relationships not to go completely mad. But maybe I just met the wrong woman who knows. I dont know and wont know untill I ve met her. Feels like her right now but should I still be interested in other women and watch porn sometimes? Who is to judge whats okay. I think thats even how porn started. Men wanted some more excitement then what they usually get. At least imagine the fantasy. Dont let porn get the best of you though. You should be in charge. Not the internet.

 

[Blossom]

I first read about this from an Osteopath Stanley Bass who is in his 90s
Energy-Karezza sex by Dr. Stanley S. Bass - How to make husbands & wives wild about each other

I think the free Reuniting.info website is far better than his books, or most books.

But I found Diane Richardson’s books very helpful. I read all of them. This is good:
https://www.amazon.com/Heart-Tantric-Sex-Unique-Fulfillment-ebook/dp/B004GXB03I

Her interviews are good. Here’s one I haven’t completely listened to but it seems really good:

Thanks a bunch for all the information!

 

[DaveFoster]

This is just a hypothesis, not saying it definitely applies to your situation, but: I've heard of observations with monkeys where it was noticed that they only masturbate if they are trapped in captivity. The implication to me is that masturbation acts like a tranquilizer. If it is impossibly hard to not masturbate without getting agitated to a degree that you are nonfunctional, then maybe your life situation, diet, and surroundings are not appropriate for you, and you are using masturbation as a coping tool for chronic stress/learned helplessness/feeling trapped?

Yes, masturbation serves as a coping tool, much like drugs, such as alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, coffee, browsing social media including internet forums, religion, family gatherings, video games and other entertainment media, gambling, promiscuity, and so on. If one indulges in one vice, then they find their need for or pleasure from others decreases or increases respectively. Life's hard and not very rewarding, so cope.

 

[lampofred]

Yes, masturbation serves as a coping tool, much like drugs, such as alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, coffee, browsing social media including internet forums, religion, family gatherings, video games and other entertainment media, gambling, promiscuity, and so on. If one indulges in one vice, then they find their need for or pleasure from others decreases or increases respectively. Life's hard and not very rewarding, so cope.

I've gotten into that helpless/hopeless/"life is just a struggle" state in the past when my serotonin was high... either due to poor gut health or oversleeping or just generalized Aspergerian symptoms which I have gradually been reducing via high doses of progesterone (other people have commented on the lessening of my autistic traits so I don't think the change is just in my head)

 

[DaveFoster]

I've gotten into that helpless/hopeless/"life is just a struggle" state in the past when my serotonin was high... either due to poor gut health or oversleeping or just generalized Aspergerian symptoms which I have gradually been reducing via high doses of progesterone (other people have commented on the lessening of my autistic traits so I don't think the change is just in my head)

Thank you. I haven't taken progesterone in months, and I've heard very positive things from Idea Labs' CortiNon, which I've been wanting to try. I've also been eating a lot of starch and almost no fat in an effort to lose weight and have been sleeping a lot after getting home from work. You're right on the money.

 

[Jib]

Yes, rhesus monkeys in captivity resorted to *compulsive* masturbation and self-mutilation to cope. Something I'm well familiar with having been socially isolated for much of my life.

Perspective is key here. I'll reiterate one point: porn and masturbation are different. Very different. When I quit porn, I allowed myself to masturbate as much as I wanted, which sometimes was 5x a week, and other times was once every two weeks. It felt much more natural and authentically connected to sexual desire.

With porn, I will inevitably end up masturbating at least once a day. Many times when I think I want to masturbate, what I really want is to masturbate to porn. The idea of just masturbating without porn, when I get those cravings, is totally 100% unappealing. That says a lot.

Pretty much 100% of the negative effects I've felt from masturbation were from porn use with masturbation. Masturbation alone, or sex alone, don't seem to negatively affect me at all.

Next time you have the urge to masturbate, ask yourself: do you actually want to masturbate, or do you just want to go on porn? Is the idea of masturbating without porn unappealing to you? Worth thinking about. And perhaps worth foregoing porn for a while and seeing if you notice any improvements in your day-to-day life.

 

[ilikecats]

@DaveFoster what do you think was different when you were saying things like:" I'm very used to a high state of being; if I'm not in a euphoric mood, then something's wrong."? Hope you get things moving in the right direction again.

 

[Cirion]

@ecstatichamster

Your experiences basically reflect mine 100%. I was also the shy type and didn't realize how PMO was affecting me until I made the conscious decision to quit. Amazing that your T levels are in the 900s!! I know that nofap isn't the sole reason for that, but my personal experiences show that it is indeed a HUGE part of it!

I note that everyone in this thread who says PMO doesn't affect anything haven't tried it for more than a week or two. I mean I get it, if you haven't experienced what it can do for you to quit, you wouldn't think it does anything. I was addicted to PMO until my late twenties. I never knew what a real libido was until I stopped PMO. I had a "fake" libido before that would only be aroused via "forcing" it. I was unable to be turned on by real women until I stopped.

I am not speaking for anyone else necessarily but I think PMO can be a touchy subject. Speaking for myself, I was truly addicted to it, so for someone to tell me it was harming me, it was like telling an alcoholic to quit. For me, I didn't want to give it up. Until I realized the huge boost I got from quitting. That sealed the deal for me.

There are some comments in this thread about suppression and resulting "sex craze" from it. That can indeed happen, especially if you are estrogen dominant (i.e., still leading an unhealthy life otherwise). So it's definitely key to do other healthful things like enough sleep, sunlight, good food etc...

 

[ecstatichamster]

@ecstatichamster

Your experiences basically reflect mine 100%. I was also the shy type and didn't realize how PMO was affecting me until I made the conscious decision to quit. Amazing that your T levels are in the 900s!! I know that nofap isn't the sole reason for that, but my personal experiences show that it is indeed a HUGE part of it!

I note that everyone in this thread who says PMO doesn't affect anything haven't tried it for more than a week or two. I mean I get it, if you haven't experienced what it can do for you to quit, you wouldn't think it does anything. It's unfortunate that very few people are willing to try it in earnest.

Okay so here’s why this is so tough. The brain’s reward circuits, a useful abstraction that I hope you will permit me, require strong emotion to change behavior. Masturbation is extremely strong on the reward circuits.

I was able to replace PMO with partner sex. I mean I always had a partner and had sex since I was a young adult, but like most guys with a longtime partner, I had all sorts of complaints about my partner. Not about her in life and as a wife, but her as a sexually attractive partner.

When I quit PMO I started the Karrezza sex and this was so 1000 times better than anything ever, with frequency of intercourse greater than ever even when we first met...and it replaced masturbation and porn with zero problems, zero effort.

Because it was so much more rewarding

I’m afraid a man will have to give up masturbation as you point out for 6 months or longer to really see the benefits, unless he embarks on a course similar to mine which trumps everything else in life. And since we started this, the material abundance has more than matched sexual abundance.

Men never “get enough” but now, i get enough.