Membrane Patterns Carry Ontogenetic Information That Is Specified Independently Of DNA

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"Embryo development (ontogeny) depends on developmental gene regulatory networks (dGRNs), but dGRNs depend on pre-existing spatial anisotropies that are defined by early embryonic axes, and those axes are established long before the embryo’s dGRNs are put in place. For example, the anterior-posterior axis in Drosophila and the animal-vegetal axis in Xenopus and echinoderms are initially derived from the architecture of the ovary through processes mediated by cytoskeletal and membrane patterns rather than dGRNs. This review focuses on plasma membrane patterns, which serve essential ontogenetic functions by providing targets and sources for intracellular signaling and transport, by regulating cell-cell interactions, and by generating endogenous electric fields that provide three-dimensional coordinate systems for embryo development. Membrane patterns are not specified by DNA sequences. Because of processes such as RNA splicing, RNA editing, protein splicing, alternative protein folding, and glycosylation, DNA sequences do not specify the final functional forms of most membrane components. Still less does DNA specify the spatial arrangements of those components. Yet their spatial arrangements carry essential ontogenetic information. The fact that membrane patterns carry ontogenetic information that is not specified by DNA poses a problem for any theory of evolution (such as Neo-Darwinism) that attributes the origin of evolutionary novelties to changes in a genetic program—-whether at the level of DNA sequences or dGRNs. This review concludes by suggesting that relational biology and category theory might be a promising new approach to understanding how the ontogenetic information in membrane patterns could be specified and undergo the orchestrated changes needed for embryo development".
 
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Discoveries like these give credence to ancient beliefs such as astrology.

I mean, biology is a product of electromagnetic processes.

Seeing as how we're intimately connected to the electric circuit made up by the moon, the sun, the planets, and the stars; things that happen up there (conjuctions, eclipses, flares) should be reflected down here in the effect they have on the developing embryos sensitive electromagnetic field.

If biology is destiny then our fate is written in the stars.
 
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Discoveries like these give credence to ancient beliefs such as astrology.

I mean, biology is a product of electromagnetic processes.

Seeing as how we're intimately connected to the electric circuit made up by the moon, the sun, the planets, and the stars; things that happen up there (conjuctions, eclipses, flares) should be reflected down here in the effect they have on the developing embryos sensitive electromagnetic field.

If biology is destiny then our fate is written in the stars.

But astrology doesn't go with the actual stars anymore lol
 
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But astrology doesn't go with the actual stars anymore lol

I mean the real astrology of olden days that was done by the magis/astronomers.

They based their religions, politics, city planning, architecture, monuments, art, etc on the happening of the stars.

I reckon that stuff probably had some meaning...
 
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I mean the real astrology of olden days that was done by the magis/astronomers.

They based their religions, politics, city planning, architecture, monuments, art, etc on the happening of the stars.

I reckon that stuff probably had some meaning...
I see the Electric Universe guys always posting about sun spots and they always point towards/away from planets or lines of planets... very interesting :emoji_thinking:
 
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I see the Electric Universe guys always posting about sun spots and they always point towards/away from planets or lines of planets... very interesting :emoji_thinking:

All stellar phenomenon is electromagnetic. I remember reading somewhere about solar flares having biological effects on people.

"Sunspots were known to the ancient Greeks, but this knowledge was lost in the West and the spottiness of the Sun only rediscovered by Galileo in the early seventeenth century." -- John R. Gribbin, astrophysicist, The Death of the Sun, 1980

Closed systems don't exist

Speaking of greeks check out this Greek scientist-philosopher that lived 400 years before Christs birth.

"Of all the ancient scientists it is he [Democritus] who speaks most clearly to us across the centuries. The few surviving fragments of his scientific writings reveal a mind of the highest logical and intuitive powers. He believed that a large number of other worlds wander through space, that worlds are born and die, that some are rich in living creatures and others are dry and barren. He was the first [Greek] to understand that the Milky Way is an aggregate of the light of innumerable feint stars." -- Carl E. Sagan, cosmologist, 1980

"The mind of Democritus soared. He saw deep connections between the heaven and the earth. Man, he said, is a microcosm. A little cosmos." -- Carl E. Sagan, cosmologist, 1980

"It is reported that Democritus the Abderite was wise, besides other things, in desiring to live unknown, and that he wholly endeavoured it. In pursuit whereof he travelled to many Countries; he went to the Chaldæans, and to Babylon, and to the Magi, and to the Indian Sophists. When the estate of his Father Damasippus was to be divided into three parts amongst the three Brothers, he took onely so much as might serve for his travel, and left the rest to his Brethren. For this Theophrastus commends him, that by travelling he had gained better things than Menelaus and Ulysses." -- Aelian, historian, 3rd century

"Democritus laughed at all people, and said they were mad; when his countrymen called him Gelasinus [Laugher]. They likewise say, that Hippocrates at his first meeting with Democritus thought him mad: But after they had conversed together, admired the man. They say that Hippocrates, though he were Doric, yet for the sake of Democritus he composed his Writings in the Ionic Dialect." -- Aelian, historian, 3rd century


"... when he [Democritus] had foretold some future event, which happened as he had predicted, and had in consequence become famous, he was for all the rest of his life thought worthy of almost divine honours by the generality of people." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, 3rd century

"And he [Democritus] laughed at everything as if all things among men deserved laughter." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

They knew something, these ancients.

I'm ******* telling you man...


 

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generating endogenous electric fields that provide three-dimensional coordinate systems for embryo development

Great find, thanks!
I wonder where the electrons for these electrical fields are coming from...Either it is food and their intensity depends on metabolism, or maybe we can acquire them directly from other electrical fields around us. Rrecently, bacteria was found that can live off of pure electricity. They eat, drink, pee and poo electrons :): So, I suspect we may be capable of some of those same feats but we probably acquire the electricity not through ingestion.
Electron-Eating Microbes Found in Odd Places | Quanta Magazine
Meet the electric life forms that live on pure energy
There are microbes that eat and poo nothing but electricity
 
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All stellar phenomenon is electromagnetic. I remember reading somewhere about solar flares having biological effects on people.

"Sunspots were known to the ancient Greeks, but this knowledge was lost in the West and the spottiness of the Sun only rediscovered by Galileo in the early seventeenth century." -- John R. Gribbin, astrophysicist, The Death of the Sun, 1980



Speaking of greeks check out this Greek scientist-philosopher that lived 400 years before Christs birth.

"Of all the ancient scientists it is he [Democritus] who speaks most clearly to us across the centuries. The few surviving fragments of his scientific writings reveal a mind of the highest logical and intuitive powers. He believed that a large number of other worlds wander through space, that worlds are born and die, that some are rich in living creatures and others are dry and barren. He was the first [Greek] to understand that the Milky Way is an aggregate of the light of innumerable feint stars." -- Carl E. Sagan, cosmologist, 1980

"The mind of Democritus soared. He saw deep connections between the heaven and the earth. Man, he said, is a microcosm. A little cosmos." -- Carl E. Sagan, cosmologist, 1980

"It is reported that Democritus the Abderite was wise, besides other things, in desiring to live unknown, and that he wholly endeavoured it. In pursuit whereof he travelled to many Countries; he went to the Chaldæans, and to Babylon, and to the Magi, and to the Indian Sophists. When the estate of his Father Damasippus was to be divided into three parts amongst the three Brothers, he took onely so much as might serve for his travel, and left the rest to his Brethren. For this Theophrastus commends him, that by travelling he had gained better things than Menelaus and Ulysses." -- Aelian, historian, 3rd century

"Democritus laughed at all people, and said they were mad; when his countrymen called him Gelasinus [Laugher]. They likewise say, that Hippocrates at his first meeting with Democritus thought him mad: But after they had conversed together, admired the man. They say that Hippocrates, though he were Doric, yet for the sake of Democritus he composed his Writings in the Ionic Dialect." -- Aelian, historian, 3rd century


"... when he [Democritus] had foretold some future event, which happened as he had predicted, and had in consequence become famous, he was for all the rest of his life thought worthy of almost divine honours by the generality of people." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, 3rd century

"And he [Democritus] laughed at everything as if all things among men deserved laughter." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

They knew something, these ancients.

I'm ******* telling you man...


I like Heraclitus the most. Unfortunately, most of his writings did not survive to our days and I think it is Democritus who carefully studied Heraclitus and wrote down some of the knowledge he acquired from the "weeping philosopher". Gotta appreciate the irony in this - the "laughing philosopher" (Democritus) and the "weeping philosopher" (Heraclitus) forming the core of some of the most profound knowledge of the Cosmos. Almost like the Ying and Yang of Greek philosophy :)
 
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I like Heraclitus the most. Unfortunately, most of his writings did not survive to our days and I think it is Democritus who carefully studied Heraclitus and wrote some down some of the knowledge he acquired from the "weeping philosopher". Gotta appreciate the irony in this - the "laughing philosopher" (Democritus) and the "weeping philosopher" (Heraclitus) forming the core of some of the most profound knowledge of the Cosmos. Almost like the Ying and Yang of Greek philosophy :)

I havent read heraclitus, only heard him mentioned as the opposite of democritus. I reckon he was sad at the fallen state of mankind. What of his did you like?
It is funny how dipolar everything is, even philosophers. Microcosm indeed.
 

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Are people just taking this at face value because it agrees with Peat?
 

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Are people just taking this at face value because it agrees with Peat?

Which part, the study posted or the philosopher discussion? The first one seems to be good piece of evidence. The philosopher discussion (at least to me) is a more of a "this is interesting, maybe there is a connection" kind of line of thought.
 

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I havent read heraclitus, only heard him mentioned as the opposite of democritus. I reckon he was sad at the fallen state of mankind. What of his did you like?
It is funny how dipolar everything is, even philosophers. Microcosm indeed.

Well, Heraclitus was the one who said basically everything flows/changes and change is probably the single fundamental property of reality. Bohmian quantum mechanics is heavily influenced by it. David Bohm talks about Heraclitus in a few of his books like "Wholeness and the Implicate Order".
Peat's work on metabolism and health are simply a corollary of this philosophy - change is fundamental and the way energy (electrons) flow through the body determines health. If electron flow is fast and unimpeded (from food to oxygen), proper structure is built and health is optimal. If electron flow is interfered with, bizarre distortions in structure occur and eventually serious pathology and even death follow.
Heraclitus said things are always becoming, realizing their potential. Human beings are the same, and how we realize our potential depends on this electron flow.
 

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But astrology doesn't go with the actual stars anymore lol
Great mathematician David Hilbert on astrology: " If you gathered the 10 wisest men in the world and asked them to think of the stupidest idea they could, they wouldn't be able to come up with anything stupider than astrology."
 

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Which part, the study posted or the philosopher discussion? The first one seems to be good piece of evidence. The philosopher discussion (at least to me) is a more of a "this is interesting, maybe there is a connection" kind of line of thought.

The study posted. Unless I'm missing something it is just a paragraph that anyone could have typed up.
 

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Heraclitus said things are always becoming, realizing their potential.
Thanks for educating us so eloquently, Haidut. Alfred Korzybski took this idea of everything always changing to an extreme, going so far as to deny identity and avoid uses of "is" that imply identity. He said that to assume the sameness of even an individual electron from moment to moment is "false to fact". He considered the absolute individuality of existents to be fundamental. (This idea is from Leibniz.) Therefore to abstract is to leave differences out and to lie. Myself, I question the factuality of this viewpoint (perhaps indiscernibles are identical) and think balance is needed in our views of change and sameness. It is useful to see that Smith 1999 is not the same as Smith 2017, but I know that I am in 2017 in many real respects the same as in 1957. It amazes me that the coelocanth remained so unchanged for so long--having evolved to it's current form 400 million years ago, and--thought to have been extinct for 66 million years-- was discovered alive and virtually the same in 1938. The force of sameness is a positive fact in nature, though on our level of life moving forward is a dynamic virtue and necessity for survival.
 

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Great mathematician David Hilbert on astrology: " If you gathered the 10 wisest men in the world and asked them to think of the stupidest idea they could, they wouldn't be able to come up with anything stupider than astrology."

Astrology never put people in Gulags. Scientists who have no spine love to bully silly beliefs and superstitions while cowardly ignoring really stupid ideas....like say socialism or giving post surgery patients lactate.
 

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